HECnet October 2013

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by sampsa＠mac.com

I like being able to watch the debug output in screen, but that's just me. Are you running with debug enabled??? Why, does that kill the performance or? sampsa

11 years, 1 month

HECnet bridge on tru64

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2013-10-16 22:47, Sampsa Laine wrote: On 16 Oct 2013, at 19:31, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2013-10-16 18:00, Sampsa Laine wrote: On 16 Oct 2013, at 17:18, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2013-10-16 11:57, Mark Wickens wrote: I am also taking a solaris box im presuming thatthe bridge would compile Ok on that? I have no reason to suspect it shouldn't work. But only testing will tell. And the same here - you might need to tweak a thing or two in the source. Johnny This got me thinking, could just customize a Raspian distro to run the bridge. Download the image, put it on a SD card and boot. Change network settings and enter uplink details in bridge.conf. bridge runs automatically in a screen launched by init (respawned if killed, of course). Instant HECnet-in-a-box :) Yes, apart that there is absolutely no reason to involve screen here. Kick the bridge from init. I like being able to watch the debug output in screen, but that's just me. Are you running with debug enabled??? Johnny

11 years, 1 month

HECnet bridge on Solaris 2.9

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2013-10-16 22:45, Mark Wickens wrote: Well, I managed to get the bridge compiled up on Solaris with some minor makefile and include and library tweaks having compiled up the latest libpcap. I am using the opencsw archive for general unix software. If I run the bridge with debug on I get the following output: ./bridge 4711 Config filename: bridge.conf Adding router ''local''. 0001187c:-4206648 Adding router ''update''. 82ee1319:4711 Adding DECnet bridge local. Trying to match local Matching against: local Found match: local == local Adding DECnet bridge update. Trying to match update Matching against: local Matching against: update Found match: update == update Adding LAT bridge local. Trying to match local Matching against: local Found match: local == local Adding LAT bridge update. Trying to match update Matching against: local Matching against: update Found match: update == update Host table: 0: local 0.0.0.0:0 (Rx: 0 Tx: 0 (Drop rx: 0)) Active: 1 Throttle: 0(000) 1: update 130.238.19.25:4711 (Rx: 0 Tx: 0 (Drop rx: 0)) Active: 1 Throttle: 0(000) Hash of known destinations: Adding new hash entry. Port is 1 Adding new hash entry. Port is 1 Adding new hash entry. Port is 1 Adding new hash entry. Port is 1 Adding new hash entry. Port is 1 Adding new hash entry. Port is 1 Setting existing hash to bridge 1 Setting existing hash to bridge 1 Setting existing hash to bridge 1 Setting existing hash to bridge 1 Adding new hash entry. Port is 1 Setting existing hash to bridge 1 Setting existing hash to bridge 1 Adding new hash entry. Port is 1 Adding new hash entry. Port is 1 Which looks encouraging, but when I try and use DECNET on SLAVE I get the following: [MSW]SLAVE$ dir mim:: %DIRECT-E-OPENIN, error opening MIM::*.*;* as input -RMS-F-SYS, QIO system service request failed -SYSTEM-F-PATHLOST, path to network partner node lost Any ideas what might be going wrong? I've updated my NAT to point to the Ultra 5 for port 4711. Could you run a tcpdump on the network where the Sun is sitting. Dump the full ethernet headers. I have some vague memory of that you might not be able to set arbitrary source MAC addresses on packets sent on Sun machines, which would make it impossible to use the bridge... (Yes, DECnet nodes check that the source MAC address of received packets are consistent with what is expected, and refuse to get adjacency up if there is something wrong. Johnny Johnny

11 years, 1 month

Concerning that e-mail thing from HP that Ian is concerned with

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

Hello! Darned if I know why, but the blankety-blank thing arrived intact into my other e-mail box. One that is registered with their hobbyist outfit. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."

11 years, 1 month

Re: Call to Action: Team is looking for contribution from OpenVMS and Open source community....

by system＠TMESIS.COM

Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> writes: On Oct 16, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> = wrote: Hello! And what were they discussing? Hopefully something important. Remember, at the moment HP has no idea exactly what VMS is and what it originally ran on, then what it took over, and its final platform. Did the email not make it to the list? Probably because it's an email = thread with, for some unknown reason, the same email thread as a PDF = attachment. If the email didnt make it to the list, let me know. (It = may have got filtered because of the attachment that I didn't see at the = time) I didn't see it. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.

11 years, 1 month

Re: Call to Action: Team is looking for contribution from OpenVMS and Open source community....

by ian＠platinum.net

On Oct 16, 2013, at 3:04 PM, Gregg Levine <gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com> wrote: Hello! And what were they discussing? Hopefully something important. Remember, at the moment HP has no idea exactly what VMS is and what it originally ran on, then what it took over, and its final platform. Did the email not make it to the list? Probably because it's an email thread with, for some unknown reason, the same email thread as a PDF attachment. If the email didnt make it to the list, let me know. (It may have got filtered because of the attachment that I didn't see at the time) Ian

11 years, 1 month

Re: [DECtec] Call to Action: Team is looking for contribution from OpenVMS and Open source community....

by b4＠gewt.net

On Wed, 16 Oct 2013, Ian McLaughlin wrote: Haha. After posting that email, I realized that they accidentally forwarded an entire conversation between two HP staffers discussing the email. I was a bit confused by the email when I got it, too. PR fail. Ian On Oct 16, 2013, at 2:58 PM, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote: Hello All, I just received the below email from HP. Did anyone else get it? It's quite interesting, but I'm also trying to figure out exactly where and when I told HP I was a VMS fan. I don't recall ever getting anything from HP in the past because of my hobbyist license registration. Wondering what others think about this - both from the 'HP reaching out' aspect as well as the aspect of promoting a port-it-to-VMS project. Ian -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects

11 years, 1 month

Re: Call to Action: Team is looking for contribution from OpenVMS and Open source community....

by gregg.drwho8＠gmail.com

Hello! And what were they discussing? Hopefully something important. Remember, at the moment HP has no idea exactly what VMS is and what it originally ran on, then what it took over, and its final platform. ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote: Haha. After posting that email, I realized that they accidentally forwarded an entire conversation between two HP staffers discussing the email. PR fail. Ian On Oct 16, 2013, at 2:58 PM, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote: Hello All, I just received the below email from HP. Did anyone else get it? It's quite interesting, but I'm also trying to figure out exactly where and when I told HP I was a VMS fan. I don't recall ever getting anything from HP in the past because of my hobbyist license registration. Wondering what others think about this - both from the 'HP reaching out' aspect as well as the aspect of promoting a port-it-to-VMS project. Ian

11 years, 1 month

Re: Call to Action: Team is looking for contribution from OpenVMS and Open source community....

by ian＠platinum.net

Haha. After posting that email, I realized that they accidentally forwarded an entire conversation between two HP staffers discussing the email. PR fail. Ian On Oct 16, 2013, at 2:58 PM, Ian McLaughlin <ian at platinum.net> wrote: Hello All, I just received the below email from HP. Did anyone else get it? It's quite interesting, but I'm also trying to figure out exactly where and when I told HP I was a VMS fan. I don't recall ever getting anything from HP in the past because of my hobbyist license registration. Wondering what others think about this - both from the 'HP reaching out' aspect as well as the aspect of promoting a port-it-to-VMS project. Ian

11 years, 1 month

HECnet bridge on tru64

by sampsa＠mac.com

On 16 Oct 2013, at 19:31, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2013-10-16 18:00, Sampsa Laine wrote: On 16 Oct 2013, at 17:18, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2013-10-16 11:57, Mark Wickens wrote: I am also taking a solaris box im presuming thatthe bridge would compile Ok on that? I have no reason to suspect it shouldn't work. But only testing will tell. And the same here - you might need to tweak a thing or two in the source. Johnny This got me thinking, could just customize a Raspian distro to run the bridge. Download the image, put it on a SD card and boot. Change network settings and enter uplink details in bridge.conf. bridge runs automatically in a screen launched by init (respawned if killed, of course). Instant HECnet-in-a-box :) Yes, apart that there is absolutely no reason to involve screen here. Kick the bridge from init. I like being able to watch the debug output in screen, but that's just me. Sampsa

11 years, 1 month

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