On 2012-12-17 17:33, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se
<mailto:bqt at softjar.se>> wrote:
On 2012-12-17 17:11, Bob Armstrong wrote:
It probably takes longer to find a sysadmin than to set up.
The GNU/Mailman stuff is already set up - I can have a new
list up and
running in ten minutes.
I don't want to fracture the HECnet list by creating two,
though, so I'd
like to see some kind of majority agreement on moving first.
Not really fond of the idea of moving the list... Any particular
problems with the current setup? Do people really want digest mode here?
Yes. It isn't currently hosted on TOPS-20. ;)
That, that I could almost agree on. :-)
Actually, a mail daemon for RSX is in my plans... Once I've done that, I'll fix a mail list manager as well, and then I can have all the fun in the world... ;-)
On a semi-related semi-serious note, would anyone here use...what was it
that was the TOPS-20 mailing list thing...bboard? Maybe we could
subscribe it to HECnet? ;)
Not sure I agree subscribing lists to lists is a good idea. There might be legitimate reasons for people to be subscribed to one, but not the other.
Same thing for the pdp-11 mailing lists.
Johnny
On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote:
On 2012-12-17 17:11, Bob Armstrong wrote:
It probably takes longer to find a sysadmin than to set up.
The GNU/Mailman stuff is already set up - I can have a new list up and
running in ten minutes.
I don't want to fracture the HECnet list by creating two, though, so I'd
like to see some kind of majority agreement on moving first.
Not really fond of the idea of moving the list... Any particular problems with the current setup? Do people really want digest mode here?
Yes. It isn't currently hosted on TOPS-20. ;)
On a semi-related semi-serious note, would anyone here use...what was it that was the TOPS-20 mailing list thing...bboard? Maybe we could subscribe it to HECnet? ;)
However, majordomo is a problem for various reasons anyway, and there are some activity to replace the whole thing, but no real time plans.
Johnny
On 2012-12-17 17:11, Bob Armstrong wrote:
It probably takes longer to find a sysadmin than to set up.
The GNU/Mailman stuff is already set up - I can have a new list up and
running in ten minutes.
I don't want to fracture the HECnet list by creating two, though, so I'd
like to see some kind of majority agreement on moving first.
Not really fond of the idea of moving the list... Any particular problems with the current setup? Do people really want digest mode here?
However, majordomo is a problem for various reasons anyway, and there are some activity to replace the whole thing, but no real time plans.
Johnny
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012, Bob Armstrong wrote:
What we really want is a NOTES gateway, right???
Bob
P.S. Just kidding, of course.
You may be kidding Bob but I thought it would be neat to actually use NOTES on HECNet for discussions that veer WAY off topic sometimes on the current HECNet-list. I personally do not care (and learn things from reading the sometimes what could be considered offtopic posts) but I know some folks may not want to see the noise.
MISER:: is up 24/7 and I'd be willing to host some conferences.
Fred
On 17 Dec 2012, at 11:09, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
OK, next try to get Linux DECNET tools running on it :)
Already did, amazingly it didn't care about the ancient tool chain.
Sampsa
On 17 Dec 2012, at 18:06, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 17 Dec 2012, at 11:02, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Well point me at the box (I suggest an older Linux that still has DECNET built in) and I'll have a go at building a CTERM accessible interface :)
I have a RedHat 9 box that I might be able to get newer python working on.
Sampsa
On 17 Dec 2012, at 17:58, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 17 Dec 2012, at 10:54, "Bob Armstrong" <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
I've asked majordomo which doesn't confirm or deny, but it seems that there
is no digest mode for the HECnet list.
This was asked before, and I'm pretty sure the majordomo we're using for
this list does not support digests.
I'd be willing to volunteer to host the list using current (more or less)
Gnu Mailman software if people want to switch. If someone (Johnny??) can
send me a list of the current subscribers, I'll even automatically subscribe
them. If somebody adds an appropriate forwarding address for
hecnet at update.uu.se, we can even make the change semi-transparent.
Not only does Gnu have a digest mode (in several different formats, to
boot) but it also has a web accessible UI for subscribing AND a web
accessible archive of past messages. Yipee!!!
Bob
This plan has my vote, pipermail is useful!
Any takers?
Wasn't somebody already running a Notes server? Was that you, Sampsa? IS
there any documentation on a programmatic interface to Notes (this being
DEC, I'm sure that there must be!)??
Not volunteering - just asking.
Bob
On 17 Dec 2012, at 18:09, Bob Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
Well point me at the box (I suggest an older Linux that still has DECNET
built in)
Actually, the more I think about it, I think you should do the VAX Notes
interface. Just write a program for VMS, using any language you like, give
it a mailbox and subscribe it to the list. It'll automatically receive a
copy of all HECnet postings, and it can parse out the subject, author,
date/time, and whatever else you need, and then jam a copy into the Notes
database. It doesn't really have to integrate with the mailing list
software at all, and has the advantage that it'll work no matter where or
how this list is hosted.
Bob
I volunteered to write a small management interface to a Unix program - this is beyond my skillset at the moment :)
Any takers?
sampsa
It probably takes longer to find a sysadmin than to set up.
The GNU/Mailman stuff is already set up - I can have a new list up and
running in ten minutes.
I don't want to fracture the HECnet list by creating two, though, so I'd
like to see some kind of majority agreement on moving first.
Bob
OK, next try to get Linux DECNET tools running on it :)
Sampsa
On 17 Dec 2012, at 18:06, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 17 Dec 2012, at 11:02, sampsa at mac.com wrote:
Well point me at the box (I suggest an older Linux that still has DECNET built in) and I'll have a go at building a CTERM accessible interface :)
I have a RedHat 9 box that I might be able to get newer python working on.
Sampsa
On 17 Dec 2012, at 17:58, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 17 Dec 2012, at 10:54, "Bob Armstrong" <bob at jfcl.com> wrote:
I've asked majordomo which doesn't confirm or deny, but it seems that there
is no digest mode for the HECnet list.
This was asked before, and I'm pretty sure the majordomo we're using for
this list does not support digests.
I'd be willing to volunteer to host the list using current (more or less)
Gnu Mailman software if people want to switch. If someone (Johnny??) can
send me a list of the current subscribers, I'll even automatically subscribe
them. If somebody adds an appropriate forwarding address for
hecnet at update.uu.se, we can even make the change semi-transparent.
Not only does Gnu have a digest mode (in several different formats, to
boot) but it also has a web accessible UI for subscribing AND a web
accessible archive of past messages. Yipee!!!
Bob
This plan has my vote, pipermail is useful!
Well point me at the box (I suggest an older Linux that still has DECNET
built in)
Actually, the more I think about it, I think you should do the VAX Notes
interface. Just write a program for VMS, using any language you like, give
it a mailbox and subscribe it to the list. It'll automatically receive a
copy of all HECnet postings, and it can parse out the subject, author,
date/time, and whatever else you need, and then jam a copy into the Notes
database. It doesn't really have to integrate with the mailing list
software at all, and has the advantage that it'll work no matter where or
how this list is hosted.
Bob
