Somebody already did the heavy lifting in the Hercules IBM emulator they emulate an IBM 2703 with BSC and IIRC serial lines over TCP look thru the source and find a file named com adapt.c or something like that I suspect all you have to do is replace the front end to match DEC interfaces.
BSC would be neat since DECNet used that as long haul links - seem to remember that from a DEC class in DECNet in Albuquerque in the 1970s (or was it the 1980s .)
On Nov 2, 2012, at 10:21 AM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Doesn't DOSBox do exactly this with it's modem emulator, you basically ATDT <host>:<port> and it connects you over TCP/IP, presenting itself as a Hayes AT modem attached to a COM port to the DOS programs?
It's how I run Waffle's UUCICO on UUHECNET.
Anyway, the idea of actual, real, live, callable POTS numbers is cool too. Ooooh, could we somehow emulate ISDN over IP?
Sampsa
On 2 Nov 2012, at 16:14, Brian Hechinger wrote:
Is it just me or does the whole conversion of serial to modem to pots to voip back and forth there seem a little excessive?
So I had an idea. What about a software modem that natively talks VoIP.
Then I had a better idea. I'm going to look into writing something similar to Johnny's serial bridge program only making it a proper "modem" with enough of the AT command set to be able to dial numbers and then make "phone numbers" actually be IP+port somehow.
Am I nuts?
-brian
On Nov 2, 2012, at 8:53, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
If someone in the states gets something going, let me know.. I'd like to do an initial test to see if I can connect over my voip lines (may have to do a little tweaking). I attempted to connect with Sampsa a few years ago, unsuccessfully; however, I'm almost certain it had to do with switching VOIP across the atlantic, as I've been somewhat successful connecting to C64 bbses in the US.
Worse case, I'll just buy a POTS line... but I prefer the free long-distance.
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Fred <fcoffey at misernet.net> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Count me in for UUHecnet as well. Happen to have any dial in-capable systems Fred? I just got my modem working and you're in the same state and it might cut down on long distance. ;)
Modems? I've got modems ... I came from the days before all this high speed stuff.:) Let me see what I'd need to hook one up - however my Asterisk system is essentially in the way so an FXS card will probaby need to be purchased (they aren't that expensive, I have a card that will accept any four of FXS/FXO - only two are populated at the moment)
Fred
There's a peripheral emulator for the 8-bit Atari computers called SIO2OSX. One of the peripherals it emulates is a modem. It simulates the AT command set enough for you to make a 'modem' connection to another IP address (and port number) using the Telnet protocol.
Because of this, you can use real BBS dialed software on your old Atari and instead of a phone number you put in an IP address. As far as the Atari is concerned, it's making a dial-up call.
Ian
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On 2012-11-02, at 7:14 AM, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
Is it just me or does the whole conversion of serial to modem to pots to voip back and forth there seem a little excessive?
So I had an idea. What about a software modem that natively talks VoIP.
Then I had a better idea. I'm going to look into writing something similar to Johnny's serial bridge program only making it a proper "modem" with enough of the AT command set to be able to dial numbers and then make "phone numbers" actually be IP+port somehow.
Am I nuts?
-brian
On Nov 2, 2012, at 8:53, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
If someone in the states gets something going, let me know.. I'd like to do an initial test to see if I can connect over my voip lines (may have to do a little tweaking). I attempted to connect with Sampsa a few years ago, unsuccessfully; however, I'm almost certain it had to do with switching VOIP across the atlantic, as I've been somewhat successful connecting to C64 bbses in the US.
Worse case, I'll just buy a POTS line... but I prefer the free long-distance.
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Fred <fcoffey at misernet.net> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Count me in for UUHecnet as well. Happen to have any dial in-capable systems Fred? I just got my modem working and you're in the same state and it might cut down on long distance. ;)
Modems? I've got modems ... I came from the days before all this high speed stuff.:) Let me see what I'd need to hook one up - however my Asterisk system is essentially in the way so an FXS card will probaby need to be purchased (they aren't that expensive, I have a card that will accept any four of FXS/FXO - only two are populated at the moment)
Fred
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Brian Hechinger wrote:
Is it just me or does the whole conversion of serial to modem to pots
to voip back and forth there seem a little excessive?
I thought people wanted to experience the lights blinking on their DF03 sitting next to their VT100....
So I had an idea. What about a software modem that natively talks VoIP.
How about an open source codec that knows how to speak Bell 103/212/v.22/etc and then just sends the actual data over IP to its counterpart on the other end?
Bob
Doesn't DOSBox do exactly this with it's modem emulator, you basically ATDT <host>:<port> and it connects you over TCP/IP, presenting itself as a Hayes AT modem attached to a COM port to the DOS programs?
It's how I run Waffle's UUCICO on UUHECNET.
Anyway, the idea of actual, real, live, callable POTS numbers is cool too. Ooooh, could we somehow emulate ISDN over IP?
Sampsa
On 2 Nov 2012, at 16:14, Brian Hechinger wrote:
Is it just me or does the whole conversion of serial to modem to pots to voip back and forth there seem a little excessive?
So I had an idea. What about a software modem that natively talks VoIP.
Then I had a better idea. I'm going to look into writing something similar to Johnny's serial bridge program only making it a proper "modem" with enough of the AT command set to be able to dial numbers and then make "phone numbers" actually be IP+port somehow.
Am I nuts?
-brian
On Nov 2, 2012, at 8:53, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
If someone in the states gets something going, let me know.. I'd like to do an initial test to see if I can connect over my voip lines (may have to do a little tweaking). I attempted to connect with Sampsa a few years ago, unsuccessfully; however, I'm almost certain it had to do with switching VOIP across the atlantic, as I've been somewhat successful connecting to C64 bbses in the US.
Worse case, I'll just buy a POTS line... but I prefer the free long-distance.
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Fred <fcoffey at misernet.net> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Count me in for UUHecnet as well. Happen to have any dial in-capable systems Fred? I just got my modem working and you're in the same state and it might cut down on long distance. ;)
Modems? I've got modems ... I came from the days before all this high speed stuff.:) Let me see what I'd need to hook one up - however my Asterisk system is essentially in the way so an FXS card will probaby need to be purchased (they aren't that expensive, I have a card that will accept any four of FXS/FXO - only two are populated at the moment)
Fred
On Nov 2, 2012, at 10:14 AM, Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> wrote:
Is it just me or does the whole conversion of serial to modem to pots to voip back and forth there seem a little excessive?
So I had an idea. What about a software modem that natively talks VoIP.
Then I had a better idea. I'm going to look into writing something similar to Johnny's serial bridge program only making it a proper "modem" with enough of the AT command set to be able to dial numbers and then make "phone numbers" actually be IP+port somehow.
Am I nuts?
Yes, but I like the idea.
-brian
On Nov 2, 2012, at 8:53, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
If someone in the states gets something going, let me know.. I'd like to do an initial test to see if I can connect over my voip lines (may have to do a little tweaking). I attempted to connect with Sampsa a few years ago, unsuccessfully; however, I'm almost certain it had to do with switching VOIP across the atlantic, as I've been somewhat successful connecting to C64 bbses in the US.
Worse case, I'll just buy a POTS line... but I prefer the free long-distance.
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Fred <fcoffey at misernet.net> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Count me in for UUHecnet as well. Happen to have any dial in-capable systems Fred? I just got my modem working and you're in the same state and it might cut down on long distance. ;)
Modems? I've got modems ... I came from the days before all this high speed stuff.:) Let me see what I'd need to hook one up - however my Asterisk system is essentially in the way so an FXS card will probaby need to be purchased (they aren't that expensive, I have a card that will accept any four of FXS/FXO - only two are populated at the moment)
Fred
Is it just me or does the whole conversion of serial to modem to pots to voip back and forth there seem a little excessive?
So I had an idea. What about a software modem that natively talks VoIP.
Then I had a better idea. I'm going to look into writing something similar to Johnny's serial bridge program only making it a proper "modem" with enough of the AT command set to be able to dial numbers and then make "phone numbers" actually be IP+port somehow.
Am I nuts?
-brian
On Nov 2, 2012, at 8:53, Joe Ferraro <jferraro at gmail.com> wrote:
If someone in the states gets something going, let me know.. I'd like to do an initial test to see if I can connect over my voip lines (may have to do a little tweaking). I attempted to connect with Sampsa a few years ago, unsuccessfully; however, I'm almost certain it had to do with switching VOIP across the atlantic, as I've been somewhat successful connecting to C64 bbses in the US.
Worse case, I'll just buy a POTS line... but I prefer the free long-distance.
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Fred <fcoffey at misernet.net> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Count me in for UUHecnet as well. Happen to have any dial in-capable systems Fred? I just got my modem working and you're in the same state and it might cut down on long distance. ;)
Modems? I've got modems ... I came from the days before all this high speed stuff.:) Let me see what I'd need to hook one up - however my Asterisk system is essentially in the way so an FXS card will probaby need to be purchased (they aren't that expensive, I have a card that will accept any four of FXS/FXO - only two are populated at the moment)
Fred
Joe Ferraro wrote:
however my Asterisk system is essentially in the way ..
You too? People think I'm nuts when I tell them my answering machine is a
Linux box...
A serious question, though - which codec are you using? ulaw, gsm, g729,
other ? The problem with using modems and VoIP is that all the codecs are
designed to compress voice and don't do well with modem tones. The
exception is ulaw/G711, which doesn't compress at all.
Bob
As to UUHECNET: if you're EMEA based, contact me for connection details.
If you're in the Americas, contact Steve Davidson.
If you're in the Asia-Pacific region, we haven't decided, me I guess.
Sampsa
On 1 Nov 2012, at 22:42, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 1 Nov 2012, at 16:34, Fred <fcoffey at misernet.net> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012, Dave McGuire wrote:
I have a Usenet feed here. Very nearly a full feed, but no binaries.
I could forward it along if we do something like this.
Count me in as interested. (I am also part of the informal uuhec uucp network already established).
Count me in for UUHecnet as well. Happen to have any dial in-capable systems Fred? I just got my modem working and you're in the same state and it might cut down on long distance. ;)
Fred
We can borrow some of the ideas from AT&T Long Lines and have our own
hobbyist telecom grid.
.... shoulda bought up all those AT&T microwave relay stations while they
were available....
Bob
If someone in the states gets something going, let me know.. I'd like to do an initial test to see if I can connect over my voip lines (may have to do a little tweaking). I attempted to connect with Sampsa a few years ago, unsuccessfully; however, I'm almost certain it had to do with switching VOIP across the atlantic, as I've been somewhat successful connecting to C64 bbses in the US.
Worse case, I'll just buy a POTS line... but I prefer the free long-distance.
On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:15 AM, Fred <fcoffey at misernet.net> wrote:
On Thu, 1 Nov 2012, Cory Smelosky wrote:
Count me in for UUHecnet as well. Happen to have any dial in-capable systems Fred? I just got my modem working and you're in the same state and it might cut down on long distance. ;)
Modems? I've got modems ... I came from the days before all this high speed stuff.:) Let me see what I'd need to hook one up - however my Asterisk system is essentially in the way so an FXS card will probaby need to be purchased (they aren't that expensive, I have a card that will accept any four of FXS/FXO - only two are populated at the moment)
Fred
