On 4 Nov 2012, at 13:56, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On 4 Nov 2012, at 13:52, Oleg Safiullin <form at pdp-11.org.ru> wrote:
Now, back to RSTS/E discussion.
So I thought i'd try out Ersatz-11 instead of simh. I've gotten RSTS/E + DECnet installed alright, and it attaches to the interface fine and it seems to work better. But every time I try to SET HOST I get some variation of:
Event type 5.15, Receive failed
Occurred 22-Oct-25 13:36:28.1 on node 33.306 (GEWT1)
Line UNA-0
Failure reason =Unrecognized frame destination
Ethernet header = AA0004003285 3C075443A176 0800
and Event type 0.0, Event records lost
Occurred 22-Oct-25 13:39:13.0 on node 33.306 (GEWT1)
Any ideas?
Looks like you're trying to access your host from an emulator which couldn't set correct mac address.
Are you using (Apple?) WiFi adapter?
... or simh incorrectly built for BSD/OSX
I'm connected to the host e11 is running on from a mac over ssh. And the source MAC address matches the mac.
This is weird.
Ah, I see what happens. E11 rewrites the host's mac address, which results in SSH packets from the remote system getting sent to the emulated machine, which as it doesn't support SSH, it complains. ;)
On 4 Nov 2012, at 13:52, Oleg Safiullin <form at pdp-11.org.ru> wrote:
Now, back to RSTS/E discussion.
So I thought i'd try out Ersatz-11 instead of simh. I've gotten RSTS/E + DECnet installed alright, and it attaches to the interface fine and it seems to work better. But every time I try to SET HOST I get some variation of:
Event type 5.15, Receive failed
Occurred 22-Oct-25 13:36:28.1 on node 33.306 (GEWT1)
Line UNA-0
Failure reason =Unrecognized frame destination
Ethernet header = AA0004003285 3C075443A176 0800
and Event type 0.0, Event records lost
Occurred 22-Oct-25 13:39:13.0 on node 33.306 (GEWT1)
Any ideas?
Looks like you're trying to access your host from an emulator which couldn't set correct mac address.
Are you using (Apple?) WiFi adapter?
... or simh incorrectly built for BSD/OSX
I'm connected to the host e11 is running on from a mac over ssh. And the source MAC address matches the mac.
This is weird.
Now, back to RSTS/E discussion.
So I thought i'd try out Ersatz-11 instead of simh. I've gotten RSTS/E + DECnet installed alright, and it attaches to the interface fine and it seems to work better. But every time I try to SET HOST I get some variation of:
Event type 5.15, Receive failed
Occurred 22-Oct-25 13:36:28.1 on node 33.306 (GEWT1)
Line UNA-0
Failure reason =Unrecognized frame destination
Ethernet header = AA0004003285 3C075443A176 0800
and Event type 0.0, Event records lost
Occurred 22-Oct-25 13:39:13.0 on node 33.306 (GEWT1)
Any ideas?
Looks like you're trying to access your host from an emulator which couldn't set correct mac address.
Are you using (Apple?) WiFi adapter?
... or simh incorrectly built for BSD/OSX...
On 2012-11-04 19:42, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 3 Nov 2012, at 20:50, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote:
El 04/11/2012, a les 0:01, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> va escriure:
That is for M+... I think he is asking for M (no plus)
Oops, I actually meant M+. I started with that exact baseline image and I had no idea it already had DECnet on it.
But I WAS trying to setup non-plus RSX-11M earlier, so I may go back to trying that as well.
With RSX11M you will have lots of fun fiddling with the partitions :). RSX11M+ is way too easy ;)
(Just kidding)
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES
Now, back to RSTS/E discussion.
So I thought i'd try out Ersatz-11 instead of simh. I've gotten RSTS/E + DECnet installed alright, and it attaches to the interface fine and it seems to work better. But every time I try to SET HOST I get some variation of:
Event type 5.15, Receive failed
Occurred 22-Oct-25 13:36:28.1 on node 33.306 (GEWT1)
Line UNA-0
Failure reason =Unrecognized frame destination
Ethernet header = AA0004003285 3C075443A176 0800
and
Event type 0.0, Event records lost
Occurred 22-Oct-25 13:39:13.0 on node 33.306 (GEWT1)
Any ideas?
Looks like you have a remote node that has not set the MAC address correctly.
AA-00-04-00-32-85 corresponds to 33.306. And that is the destination of the ethernet packet that you received. So far, so good. However, the source address in those packets are 3C-07-54-43-A1-76, which is not a DECnet address. So check the "other" machine that you are trying to talk to.
Johnny
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On 3 Nov 2012, at 20:50, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote:
El 04/11/2012, a les 0:01, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> va escriure:
That is for M+... I think he is asking for M (no plus)
Oops, I actually meant M+. I started with that exact baseline image and I had no idea it already had DECnet on it.
But I WAS trying to setup non-plus RSX-11M earlier, so I may go back to trying that as well.
With RSX11M you will have lots of fun fiddling with the partitions :). RSX11M+ is way too easy ;)
(Just kidding)
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES
Now, back to RSTS/E discussion.
So I thought i'd try out Ersatz-11 instead of simh. I've gotten RSTS/E + DECnet installed alright, and it attaches to the interface fine and it seems to work better. But every time I try to SET HOST I get some variation of:
Event type 5.15, Receive failed
Occurred 22-Oct-25 13:36:28.1 on node 33.306 (GEWT1)
Line UNA-0
Failure reason =Unrecognized frame destination
Ethernet header = AA0004003285 3C075443A176 0800
and
Event type 0.0, Event records lost
Occurred 22-Oct-25 13:39:13.0 on node 33.306 (GEWT1)
Any ideas?
El 04/11/2012, a les 0:01, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> va escriure:
That is for M+... I think he is asking for M (no plus)
Oops, I actually meant M+. I started with that exact baseline image and I had no idea it already had DECnet on it.
But I WAS trying to setup non-plus RSX-11M earlier, so I may go back to trying that as well.
With RSX11M you will have lots of fun fiddling with the partitions :). RSX11M+ is way too easy ;)
(Just kidding)
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES
On Nov 3, 2012, at 8:06 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Nov 3, 2012, at 7:01 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Nov 3, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote:
El 03/11/2012, a les 23:45, Oleg Safiullin <form at pdp-11.org.ru> va escriure:
Ah okay, I understand now. Do you happen to have a DECnet installation tape for RSX-11 though? The ones I found on the trailing-edge ftp site are corrupted.
rsx_dists/rsx11mpbl87.dsk.bz2 image contains working endnode DECnet kit.
That is for M+... I think he is asking for M (no plus)
Oops, I actually meant M+. I started with that exact baseline image and I had no idea it already had DECnet on it.
Well, I finished but!
Event type 5.13, Initialization failure
Occurred 3-OCT-12 20:04:43 on node 33.301 (MANDY)
Line UNA-0
I did NETGEN, I configured the mac address in simh correctly. How would I go about figuring out what exactly the problem is?
Nevermind. Problem was with simh version 3.8-1. Moving it to a git revision that doesn't have the rq bugs solved the problem.
But I WAS trying to setup non-plus RSX-11M earlier, so I may go back to trying that as well.
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES
On Nov 3, 2012, at 7:01 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Nov 3, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote:
El 03/11/2012, a les 23:45, Oleg Safiullin <form at pdp-11.org.ru> va escriure:
Ah okay, I understand now. Do you happen to have a DECnet installation tape for RSX-11 though? The ones I found on the trailing-edge ftp site are corrupted.
rsx_dists/rsx11mpbl87.dsk.bz2 image contains working endnode DECnet kit.
That is for M+... I think he is asking for M (no plus)
Oops, I actually meant M+. I started with that exact baseline image and I had no idea it already had DECnet on it.
Well, I finished but!
Event type 5.13, Initialization failure
Occurred 3-OCT-12 20:04:43 on node 33.301 (MANDY)
Line UNA-0
I did NETGEN, I configured the mac address in simh correctly. How would I go about figuring out what exactly the problem is?
But I WAS trying to setup non-plus RSX-11M earlier, so I may go back to trying that as well.
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES
On Nov 3, 2012, at 6:55 PM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote:
El 03/11/2012, a les 23:45, Oleg Safiullin <form at pdp-11.org.ru> va escriure:
Ah okay, I understand now. Do you happen to have a DECnet installation tape for RSX-11 though? The ones I found on the trailing-edge ftp site are corrupted.
rsx_dists/rsx11mpbl87.dsk.bz2 image contains working endnode DECnet kit.
That is for M+... I think he is asking for M (no plus)
Oops, I actually meant M+. I started with that exact baseline image and I had no idea it already had DECnet on it.
But I WAS trying to setup non-plus RSX-11M earlier, so I may go back to trying that as well.
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons
jg at jordi.guillaumes.name
HECnet: BITXOV::JGUILLAUMES
Jordi Guillaumes i Pons wrote:
El 03/11/2012, a les 23:45, Oleg Safiullin <form at pdp-11.org.ru> va escriure:
Ah okay, I understand now. Do you happen to have a DECnet installation tape for RSX-11 though? The ones I found on the trailing-edge ftp site are corrupted.
rsx_dists/rsx11mpbl87.dsk.bz2 image contains working endnode DECnet kit.
That is for M+... I think he is asking for M (no plus)
DECnet 11M V4.2 is here:
http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/bits/DEC/pdp11/magtapes/rsx11m/
