On 29 Oct 2012, at 14:03, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Another stupid question: How do i set the DECNET address?
I think you might need to reinstall DECnet, the tape is up on that ftp site and can be installed the same way as DECmail.
Sampsa
On 29 Oct 2012, at 19:42, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Stupid question, where can I find said tape?
Sampsa
On 29 Oct 2012, at 19:38, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 29 Oct 2012, at 13:26, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
DECmail would rock - how hard is it to install?
Not very hard at all!
1). grab tape
2). attach tape (read the .ini)
3). log in!
4). @[0,1]instal layered_products
5). choose decmail
6). Press return until it completes.
No idea how to configure it though, but considering the lack of TCP/IP i'd assume it's pretty much just for users of the system it's installed on, might have DECnet bits though.
I know NOTHING about RSTS btw..
I barely know anything about RSTS myself ;). I'm trying to learn my way around, though.
Sampsa
On 29 Oct 2012, at 19:01, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
So any chance of uploading this image anywhere?
If you want to rebuild your own monitor, give me a couple minutes to upload a new image. If you just want an install to play with, use http://gewt.net/rsts.7z with a pass for 1,2 of "epicfail"
http://gewt.net/rsts-proper.7z 1,2 still has a pass of epicfail and I believe there's also 99,98 with a password of testing. This doesn't have DECmail installed though. A config for simh is included, edit it to suit your needs. I'm not amazing at this or I'd add a nice README and a shiny barely-valid-HTML webpage that looks like it came from 1993 about it.
Sampsa
On 28 Oct 2012, at 15:48, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 27 Oct 2012, at 21:19, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/27/2012 03:57 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
That reminds me, if someone has a turnkey RSX or RSTS box around
(that I could just plug in to SIMH and play with), ideally with
DECNET support, please let me know.
If you can't find one, I can make a RSTS image up for you. (I've never
done DECnet under RSX, so that'd take me awhile to figure out)
Which version of RSTS? I can give my disk image for my install of 10.1 if anyone wants to try and figure out what I did wrong or wants to make it in to a turnkey install it's pretty basic as i'm new to RSTS. (it has DECmail though)
I'm cool with RSTS - whatever version is fine.
Sampsa
PS: I will plague people with noob questions..
Another stupid question: How do i set the DECNET address?
Sampsa
On 29 Oct 2012, at 19:42, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Stupid question, where can I find said tape?
Sampsa
On 29 Oct 2012, at 19:38, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 29 Oct 2012, at 13:26, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
DECmail would rock - how hard is it to install?
Not very hard at all!
1). grab tape
2). attach tape (read the .ini)
3). log in!
4). @[0,1]instal layered_products
5). choose decmail
6). Press return until it completes.
No idea how to configure it though, but considering the lack of TCP/IP i'd assume it's pretty much just for users of the system it's installed on, might have DECnet bits though.
I know NOTHING about RSTS btw..
I barely know anything about RSTS myself ;). I'm trying to learn my way around, though.
Sampsa
On 29 Oct 2012, at 19:01, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
So any chance of uploading this image anywhere?
If you want to rebuild your own monitor, give me a couple minutes to upload a new image. If you just want an install to play with, use http://gewt.net/rsts.7z with a pass for 1,2 of "epicfail"
http://gewt.net/rsts-proper.7z 1,2 still has a pass of epicfail and I believe there's also 99,98 with a password of testing. This doesn't have DECmail installed though. A config for simh is included, edit it to suit your needs. I'm not amazing at this or I'd add a nice README and a shiny barely-valid-HTML webpage that looks like it came from 1993 about it.
Sampsa
On 28 Oct 2012, at 15:48, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 27 Oct 2012, at 21:19, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/27/2012 03:57 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
That reminds me, if someone has a turnkey RSX or RSTS box around
(that I could just plug in to SIMH and play with), ideally with
DECNET support, please let me know.
If you can't find one, I can make a RSTS image up for you. (I've never
done DECnet under RSX, so that'd take me awhile to figure out)
Which version of RSTS? I can give my disk image for my install of 10.1 if anyone wants to try and figure out what I did wrong or wants to make it in to a turnkey install it's pretty basic as i'm new to RSTS. (it has DECmail though)
I'm cool with RSTS - whatever version is fine.
Sampsa
PS: I will plague people with noob questions..
On 29 Oct 2012, at 13:42, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
Stupid question, where can I find said tape?
ftp://ftp.trailing-edge.com/pub/rsts_freeware/ or similar, might not be that exact directory.
Sampsa
On 29 Oct 2012, at 19:38, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 29 Oct 2012, at 13:26, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
DECmail would rock - how hard is it to install?
Not very hard at all!
1). grab tape
2). attach tape (read the .ini)
3). log in!
4). @[0,1]instal layered_products
5). choose decmail
6). Press return until it completes.
No idea how to configure it though, but considering the lack of TCP/IP i'd assume it's pretty much just for users of the system it's installed on, might have DECnet bits though.
I know NOTHING about RSTS btw..
I barely know anything about RSTS myself ;). I'm trying to learn my way around, though.
Sampsa
On 29 Oct 2012, at 19:01, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
So any chance of uploading this image anywhere?
If you want to rebuild your own monitor, give me a couple minutes to upload a new image. If you just want an install to play with, use http://gewt.net/rsts.7z with a pass for 1,2 of "epicfail"
http://gewt.net/rsts-proper.7z 1,2 still has a pass of epicfail and I believe there's also 99,98 with a password of testing. This doesn't have DECmail installed though. A config for simh is included, edit it to suit your needs. I'm not amazing at this or I'd add a nice README and a shiny barely-valid-HTML webpage that looks like it came from 1993 about it.
Sampsa
On 28 Oct 2012, at 15:48, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 27 Oct 2012, at 21:19, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/27/2012 03:57 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
That reminds me, if someone has a turnkey RSX or RSTS box around
(that I could just plug in to SIMH and play with), ideally with
DECNET support, please let me know.
If you can't find one, I can make a RSTS image up for you. (I've never
done DECnet under RSX, so that'd take me awhile to figure out)
Which version of RSTS? I can give my disk image for my install of 10.1 if anyone wants to try and figure out what I did wrong or wants to make it in to a turnkey install it's pretty basic as i'm new to RSTS. (it has DECmail though)
I'm cool with RSTS - whatever version is fine.
Sampsa
PS: I will plague people with noob questions..
Stupid question, where can I find said tape?
Sampsa
On 29 Oct 2012, at 19:38, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On 29 Oct 2012, at 13:26, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
DECmail would rock - how hard is it to install?
Not very hard at all!
1). grab tape
2). attach tape (read the .ini)
3). log in!
4). @[0,1]instal layered_products
5). choose decmail
6). Press return until it completes.
No idea how to configure it though, but considering the lack of TCP/IP i'd assume it's pretty much just for users of the system it's installed on, might have DECnet bits though.
I know NOTHING about RSTS btw..
I barely know anything about RSTS myself ;). I'm trying to learn my way around, though.
Sampsa
On 29 Oct 2012, at 19:01, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
So any chance of uploading this image anywhere?
If you want to rebuild your own monitor, give me a couple minutes to upload a new image. If you just want an install to play with, use http://gewt.net/rsts.7z with a pass for 1,2 of "epicfail"
http://gewt.net/rsts-proper.7z 1,2 still has a pass of epicfail and I believe there's also 99,98 with a password of testing. This doesn't have DECmail installed though. A config for simh is included, edit it to suit your needs. I'm not amazing at this or I'd add a nice README and a shiny barely-valid-HTML webpage that looks like it came from 1993 about it.
Sampsa
On 28 Oct 2012, at 15:48, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 27 Oct 2012, at 21:19, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/27/2012 03:57 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
That reminds me, if someone has a turnkey RSX or RSTS box around
(that I could just plug in to SIMH and play with), ideally with
DECNET support, please let me know.
If you can't find one, I can make a RSTS image up for you. (I've never
done DECnet under RSX, so that'd take me awhile to figure out)
Which version of RSTS? I can give my disk image for my install of 10.1 if anyone wants to try and figure out what I did wrong or wants to make it in to a turnkey install it's pretty basic as i'm new to RSTS. (it has DECmail though)
I'm cool with RSTS - whatever version is fine.
Sampsa
PS: I will plague people with noob questions..
On 29 Oct 2012, at 13:26, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
DECmail would rock - how hard is it to install?
Not very hard at all!
1). grab tape
2). attach tape (read the .ini)
3). log in!
4). @[0,1]instal layered_products
5). choose decmail
6). Press return until it completes.
No idea how to configure it though, but considering the lack of TCP/IP i'd assume it's pretty much just for users of the system it's installed on, might have DECnet bits though.
I know NOTHING about RSTS btw..
I barely know anything about RSTS myself ;). I'm trying to learn my way around, though.
Sampsa
On 29 Oct 2012, at 19:01, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
So any chance of uploading this image anywhere?
If you want to rebuild your own monitor, give me a couple minutes to upload a new image. If you just want an install to play with, use http://gewt.net/rsts.7z with a pass for 1,2 of "epicfail"
http://gewt.net/rsts-proper.7z 1,2 still has a pass of epicfail and I believe there's also 99,98 with a password of testing. This doesn't have DECmail installed though. A config for simh is included, edit it to suit your needs. I'm not amazing at this or I'd add a nice README and a shiny barely-valid-HTML webpage that looks like it came from 1993 about it.
Sampsa
On 28 Oct 2012, at 15:48, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 27 Oct 2012, at 21:19, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/27/2012 03:57 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
That reminds me, if someone has a turnkey RSX or RSTS box around
(that I could just plug in to SIMH and play with), ideally with
DECNET support, please let me know.
If you can't find one, I can make a RSTS image up for you. (I've never
done DECnet under RSX, so that'd take me awhile to figure out)
Which version of RSTS? I can give my disk image for my install of 10.1 if anyone wants to try and figure out what I did wrong or wants to make it in to a turnkey install it's pretty basic as i'm new to RSTS. (it has DECmail though)
I'm cool with RSTS - whatever version is fine.
Sampsa
PS: I will plague people with noob questions..
DECmail would rock - how hard is it to install?
I know NOTHING about RSTS btw..
Sampsa
On 29 Oct 2012, at 19:01, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
So any chance of uploading this image anywhere?
If you want to rebuild your own monitor, give me a couple minutes to upload a new image. If you just want an install to play with, use http://gewt.net/rsts.7z with a pass for 1,2 of "epicfail"
http://gewt.net/rsts-proper.7z 1,2 still has a pass of epicfail and I believe there's also 99,98 with a password of testing. This doesn't have DECmail installed though. A config for simh is included, edit it to suit your needs. I'm not amazing at this or I'd add a nice README and a shiny barely-valid-HTML webpage that looks like it came from 1993 about it.
Sampsa
On 28 Oct 2012, at 15:48, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 27 Oct 2012, at 21:19, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/27/2012 03:57 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
That reminds me, if someone has a turnkey RSX or RSTS box around
(that I could just plug in to SIMH and play with), ideally with
DECNET support, please let me know.
If you can't find one, I can make a RSTS image up for you. (I've never
done DECnet under RSX, so that'd take me awhile to figure out)
Which version of RSTS? I can give my disk image for my install of 10.1 if anyone wants to try and figure out what I did wrong or wants to make it in to a turnkey install it's pretty basic as i'm new to RSTS. (it has DECmail though)
I'm cool with RSTS - whatever version is fine.
Sampsa
PS: I will plague people with noob questions..
On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote:
On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
So any chance of uploading this image anywhere?
If you want to rebuild your own monitor, give me a couple minutes to upload a new image. If you just want an install to play with, use http://gewt.net/rsts.7z with a pass for 1,2 of "epicfail"
http://gewt.net/rsts-proper.7z 1,2 still has a pass of epicfail and I believe there's also 99,98 with a password of testing. This doesn't have DECmail installed though. A config for simh is included, edit it to suit your needs. I'm not amazing at this or I'd add a nice README and a shiny barely-valid-HTML webpage that looks like it came from 1993 about it.
Sampsa
On 28 Oct 2012, at 15:48, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 27 Oct 2012, at 21:19, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/27/2012 03:57 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
That reminds me, if someone has a turnkey RSX or RSTS box around
(that I could just plug in to SIMH and play with), ideally with
DECNET support, please let me know.
If you can't find one, I can make a RSTS image up for you. (I've never
done DECnet under RSX, so that'd take me awhile to figure out)
Which version of RSTS? I can give my disk image for my install of 10.1 if anyone wants to try and figure out what I did wrong or wants to make it in to a turnkey install it's pretty basic as i'm new to RSTS. (it has DECmail though)
I'm cool with RSTS - whatever version is fine.
Sampsa
PS: I will plague people with noob questions..
On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> wrote:
So any chance of uploading this image anywhere?
If you want to rebuild your own monitor, give me a couple minutes to upload a new image. If you just want an install to play with, use http://gewt.net/rsts.7z with a pass for 1,2 of "epicfail"
Sampsa
On 28 Oct 2012, at 15:48, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 27 Oct 2012, at 21:19, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/27/2012 03:57 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
That reminds me, if someone has a turnkey RSX or RSTS box around
(that I could just plug in to SIMH and play with), ideally with
DECNET support, please let me know.
If you can't find one, I can make a RSTS image up for you. (I've never
done DECnet under RSX, so that'd take me awhile to figure out)
Which version of RSTS? I can give my disk image for my install of 10.1 if anyone wants to try and figure out what I did wrong or wants to make it in to a turnkey install it's pretty basic as i'm new to RSTS. (it has DECmail though)
I'm cool with RSTS - whatever version is fine.
Sampsa
PS: I will plague people with noob questions..
So any chance of uploading this image anywhere?
Sampsa
On 28 Oct 2012, at 15:48, Sampsa Laine wrote:
On 27 Oct 2012, at 21:19, Cory Smelosky wrote:
On Oct 27, 2012, at 2:06 PM, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 10/27/2012 03:57 AM, Sampsa Laine wrote:
That reminds me, if someone has a turnkey RSX or RSTS box around
(that I could just plug in to SIMH and play with), ideally with
DECNET support, please let me know.
If you can't find one, I can make a RSTS image up for you. (I've never
done DECnet under RSX, so that'd take me awhile to figure out)
Which version of RSTS? I can give my disk image for my install of 10.1 if anyone wants to try and figure out what I did wrong or wants to make it in to a turnkey install it's pretty basic as i'm new to RSTS. (it has DECmail though)
I'm cool with RSTS - whatever version is fine.
Sampsa
PS: I will plague people with noob questions..
On Oct 29, 2012, at 12:03 PM, Jordi Guillaumes i Pons <jg at jordi.guillaumes.name> wrote:
Al 29/10/12 13:08, En/na Cory Smelosky ha escrit:
It works mostly "out of the box" with the Panda distribution. You have to fiddle a little bit with the configuration file but IIRC it is pretty straightforward. I'll check it when I get access to my machine. Or you can check it yourself SET HOSTing to BITXT2 in HECnet.
Unknown node, what's its address? Could you explain what you did to configure it?
I am not at home now, so I will probably forgert something.
You must edit SYSTEM:7-1-CONFIG.CMD and add/modify the following lines:
NODE <your_node> <area.address>
DECNET ROUTER-ENDNODE
ETHERNET 0 DECNET
29-Oct-2012 09:33:11 ***BUGCHK COMBNN*** Bad local node number Job: 0, User: OPERATOR
[KNILDR: Loading microcode version 1(172) into Ethernet channel 0]
TYPE SYSTEM:7-1-CONFIG.CMD shows:
NODE MINDY 33.303
DECNET ROUTER-ENDNODE
ETHERNET 0 DECNET
Trying to enter opr so I can enter NCP and see if I can get more information but nothing happens when I type opr<ret> as operator.
The system is not reachable via decnet.
Did I forget a setting somewhere?
By the way, the address of BITXT2 is 7.78; you can login using GUEST / GUEST.
I have not tried to configure it as a router, so I can not tell if anything different of ROUTER-ENDNODE would work. By the way, there is no "permanent database" in TOPS-20 DECNET, so you have to define the nodes everytime. I made a command procedure to do that parsing the output of a LIST KNOWN NODES, but unfortunately I can't tell you how do I invoke that command procedure now (I just forgot that!).
The tricky part was the host configuration. I was unable to share the ethernet card of the host, so I resorted to the (somehow convoluted) solution of running a minimal linux system inside a virtualbox vm with several ethernet adapters and then run KLT10 inside the VM, using one of the virtual ethernet devices.
I have it attached to a bridge and it is reachable via TCP/IP, so networking works.
