HECnet September 2011

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by healyzh＠aracnet.com

At 12:31 AM +0200 9/7/11, Johnny Billquist wrote: On 2011-09-07 00:21, Zane H. Healy wrote: At 11:48 PM +0200 9/6/11, Johnny Billquist wrote: Does anyone have sources to RMS-11 V2.0. Specifically for RSX, in case they differ. I don't believe I have that in my archives. (And no, the TCP/IP is not available for distribution yet, but might be in the future, depending on interest and so on...) Is this your own TCP/IP implementation or the one from Process Software? This is my. Process Software's is much less capable. Not to mention slower. :-) I'd be inclined to say agonizingly slow on a PDP-11/73 running RSX-11M+ V4.6. Time to release your version! ;-) Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Photographer | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | My flickr Photostream | | http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ |

13 years, 2 months

MMJ posted (was Re: [HECnet] Anyone with a spare MMJ cable + RS232 adapter?)

by schwa.phil＠gmail.com

Sampsa - The cables are in the mail. The total for shipping was Can$ 8.98 all in, so if you want to send me Can$ 32 at your convenience, you can paypal this e-mail address. No tracking number - just letter post, small padded envelope. I tested them before sending, but if there's any trouble or they don't arrive, please let me know. Cheers, Phil

13 years, 2 months

RMS-11

by bqt＠softjar.se

On 2011-09-07 00:21, Zane H. Healy wrote: At 11:48 PM +0200 9/6/11, Johnny Billquist wrote: Does anyone have sources to RMS-11 V2.0. Specifically for RSX, in case they differ. I don't believe I have that in my archives. (And no, the TCP/IP is not available for distribution yet, but might be in the future, depending on interest and so on...) Is this your own TCP/IP implementation or the one from Process Software? This is my. Process Software's is much less capable. Not to mention slower. :-) Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

13 years, 2 months

RMS-11

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

At 11:48 PM +0200 9/6/11, Johnny Billquist wrote: Does anyone have sources to RMS-11 V2.0. Specifically for RSX, in case they differ. I don't believe I have that in my archives. (And no, the TCP/IP is not available for distribution yet, but might be in the future, depending on interest and so on...) Is this your own TCP/IP implementation or the one from Process Software? Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | | Photographer | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | My flickr Photostream | | http://www.flickr.com/photos/33848088 at N03/ |

13 years, 2 months

RMS-11

by bqt＠softjar.se

Does anyone have sources to RMS-11 V2.0. Specifically for RSX, in case they differ. I have a tricky problem. I've written a device driver that pretends to look like a file system without using any ACP. It implements most functions an ACP normally implement. It also have some "odd" attributes set on the device to represent both what it actually is, and also to make FCS do "the right thing". So, yes, using FCS, I can access this device just like any other, including opening files and so on... However, RMS-11 is not so cooperative, and I guess it means that I'm either not implementing some ACP function in enough detail to make RMS-11 happy, or else some device attribute it not set right, causing RMS-11 to treat the whole thing in a way that is too restricted, compared to FCS, in which case I want to figure out exactly how to set attributes to make RMS-11 do the right thing as well. And just to explain what I'm doing in a little more detail: I've actually done this for two devices. The first is the DOS device presented by E11 and other emulators. It's a device that gives access to the host file system. The second device is actually TCP/IP. I can use normal tools and FCS functions to access the internet, just as easy as any other file. But not so, using RMS... :-( As an example: .pip ti:=tc:"130.238.19.25";21 220- =============================================================== 220- = Welcome to the Update Computer Club FTP archives! = 220- =============================================================== 220- 220- This server is maintained by the computer club Update at 220- Uppsala University in Uppsala, Sweden. 220- 220- You can find all the good stuff in the /pub directory. 220- 220- Please be advised that the club provides this service without 220- any guarantees, and we take no responsibility for any harm that 220- may come to you or your system from the use of this server, or 220- files obtained from this server. 220- 220- We do, however, try to ensure that everything here is correct. 220- If you have problems with the server, please contact the 220- FTP administrator ftpadm at Update.UU.SE. 220- 220 PIP -- I/O error on input file TC0:[IPLIB]130238019.025;21 -- Timeout on request . Now, it would be awesome if I could make this play using RMS as well, since then I could easily write servers using BASIC+2 or other languages. FORTRAN 77 as well as C do also have FCS interfaces, so I can already use those, assuming I'm happy with limiting myself to FCS. But I want it all (of course). So - anyone who might be able to help? (And no, the TCP/IP is not available for distribution yet, but might be in the future, depending on interest and so on...) Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

13 years, 2 months

VMS powered web chat. It's not as a good as phone, I know.

by ian＠platinum.net

On 2011-09-06, at 12:56 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote: http://rhesus.sampsa.com/ftalk/ I get a 503 Service Unavailable error. Did I break it? Ian

13 years, 2 months

DEC Legacy Event is nearly upon us...

by sampsa＠mac.com

Steve, I see your multinet tunnel to GORVAX is down - is there a problem your side or mine, you think? Sampsa On 6 Sep 2011, at 17:03, Steve Davidson wrote: Mark, If you need and (remote) help with this... Let me know. I will make myself available as necessary. -Steve ________________________________ From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Mark Wickens Sent: Tue 9/6/2011 02:55 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] DEC Legacy Event is nearly upon us... Just a reminder that the DEC Legacy Event is nearly upon us! October 8/9 in Windermere, more information here: http://declegacy.org.uk <http://declegacy.org.uk/> The exhibits page gives a summary of the hardware that will be making an appearance: http://wickensonline.co.uk/declegacy/hardware I'm in the process of securing an internet connection. Hopefully I'll be connecting a couple of my boxes to HECnet over the course of the weekend, to show participants what they're missing out on. Regards, Mark. <winmail.dat>

13 years, 2 months

DEC Legacy Event is nearly upon us...

by jeep＠scshome.net

Mark, If you need and (remote) help with this... Let me know. I will make myself available as necessary. -Steve ________________________________ From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE on behalf of Mark Wickens Sent: Tue 9/6/2011 02:55 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] DEC Legacy Event is nearly upon us... Just a reminder that the DEC Legacy Event is nearly upon us! October 8/9 in Windermere, more information here: http://declegacy.org.uk <http://declegacy.org.uk/> The exhibits page gives a summary of the hardware that will be making an appearance: http://wickensonline.co.uk/declegacy/hardware I'm in the process of securing an internet connection. Hopefully I'll be connecting a couple of my boxes to HECnet over the course of the weekend, to show participants what they're missing out on. Regards, Mark.

13 years, 2 months

SIMH on CentOS 5.6

by Paul_Koning＠Dell.com

Lots of Unices use "partition" names to designate part of all of a physical device; for example on NetBSD the suffix "d" by convention means "the whole disk". On the other hand, on Linux no suffix is the whole disk, and letter suffixes mean (real) partitions. I didn't know that CDRoms could be partitioned. But you can check this easily: "cat /proc/partitions" shows you all the partitions that the OS can see (on all the visible disks). paul -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Mark Benson Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2011 2:22 AM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] SIMH on CentOS 5.6 On 6 Sep 2011, at 06:52, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote: The dd command ought to produce a bootable copy of the cdrom. On Tru64 the correct partition is If=/dev/disks/ cdrom0c When I dd'd off a copy of the VAX VMS CD-ROM it didn't work for me initially either. Now I can't remember which way round it was now, but I think I dd'd the whole CD-ROM and it didn't work and then I dd'd off only the *partition* with the data in and that worked fine. Either that or the other way around. From the looks of the quote above you only need the partition. Memory is terrible, sorry :) -- Mark Benson My Blog: <http://markbenson.org/blog> Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/mdbenson "Never send a human to do a machine's job..."

13 years, 2 months

SIMH on CentOS 5.6

by gerry77＠mail.com

On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 22:41:35 -0700, you wrote: Does anyone have any pointers for making an ISO image of the CD? Am I doing it wrong? I would like to make a backup of the disk because I'm already on my second physical copy and would like to back it up before I lose it again You may already know, but... Please note that a VMS CD-ROM bootable image is not ISO 9660 formatted. So don't be misleaded if a correctly made image does not mount on Linux or whatever (or does not show up on Windows): don't take that as a test! The only way to check for a VMS CD-ROM image integrity is by having it booted or mounted in VMS. There is also a vmscd utility that can be used to inspect and extract data from such an image on Linux. Just look for it with Google. There is no difference between a VMS CD-ROM bootable image and a classical VMS hard disk image: they are both structured as an ODS-2 filesystem. Anyway, VMS can also mount and use ISO 9660 CD-ROM data discs and images. HTH, :-) G. P.S. Itanium-bootable images are different.

13 years, 2 months

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