On 08/03/11 21:51, Steve Davidson wrote:
Mark,
Do you remember how you initially defined the queue? Hoff is right
about them being a pain. Printers and backups were the biggest
headaches on VMS at DEC without question. LAT printers (queues) were
much worse than directly connected ones! I remember it as being a bit
of a moving target on the best of days.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Mark Wickens
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 16:28
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] Printing to an LA75 using VMS queues and form
definitions
Hi guys,
I have printing working to my LA75+ dot matrix printer via a spooled VMS
queue which communicates via LAT with the printer attached to a
DECserver 90L+. Everything is working fine except for two issues:
1. I'd like to be able to print with a form definition which leaves a
margin at the top and bottom of the page. I tried this:
$ DEFINE/FORM LISTING 3
/WIDTH=132/PAGE=66/MARGIN=(TOP=6,BOTTOM=6)/STOCK=DEFAULT/NOWRAP/TRUNCATE
$ SET QUEUE/DEFAULT=FORM=LISTING LA75$PRINT_ALEPH$
I tried asking Hoff but I think he's sick of my 80's related questions,
his response was entitled:
Classic printing best left to masochistic perfectionists
<http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/766#comment-2424>
(http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/766)
I think I'm almost there, but the printer appears to be ignoring the
bottom margin - I get a top margin fine, and the listing is not
exhibiting 'rolling' ie the content of the output is aligned correctly
on each page.
Anyone got any ideas what I can do? I want to be able to put listings in
vertical binders, and that just doesn't work without both top and bottom
margins being honoured.
Regards, Mark
Oh, I think you might just now expose me as a noob...
I used DCPS to initially define the queue... forgetting that it's a pointless exercise for this (distinctly non-postscript) printer!
Maybe I need to drop the queues and recreate?
As it stands the queue looks like this:
BUBBLE$$ show queue/full LA75$PRINT_ALEPH$
Terminal queue LA75$PRINT_ALEPH$, idle, on ALEPH::LTA75:, mounted form DEFAULT
/BASE_PRIORITY=4 /DEFAULT=(FORM=DEFAULT) Lowercase /OWNER=[SYSTEM]
/NO_INITIAL_FF /PROTECTION=(S:M,O:D,G:R,W:S)
I deliberately set the LTA75: 'terminal' to /WIDTH=132 and /PAGE=66 which is the page length. The printer starts up in 132 column mode.
Mark.
Mark,
Do you remember how you initially defined the queue? Hoff is right
about them being a pain. Printers and backups were the biggest
headaches on VMS at DEC without question. LAT printers (queues) were
much worse than directly connected ones! I remember it as being a bit
of a moving target on the best of days.
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Mark Wickens
Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 16:28
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: [HECnet] Printing to an LA75 using VMS queues and form
definitions
Hi guys,
I have printing working to my LA75+ dot matrix printer via a spooled VMS
queue which communicates via LAT with the printer attached to a
DECserver 90L+. Everything is working fine except for two issues:
1. I'd like to be able to print with a form definition which leaves a
margin at the top and bottom of the page. I tried this:
$ DEFINE/FORM LISTING 3
/WIDTH=132/PAGE=66/MARGIN=(TOP=6,BOTTOM=6)/STOCK=DEFAULT/NOWRAP/TRUNCATE
$ SET QUEUE/DEFAULT=FORM=LISTING LA75$PRINT_ALEPH$
I tried asking Hoff but I think he's sick of my 80's related questions,
his response was entitled:
Classic printing best left to masochistic perfectionists
<http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/766#comment-2424>
(http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/766)
I think I'm almost there, but the printer appears to be ignoring the
bottom margin - I get a top margin fine, and the listing is not
exhibiting 'rolling' ie the content of the output is aligned correctly
on each page.
Anyone got any ideas what I can do? I want to be able to put listings in
vertical binders, and that just doesn't work without both top and bottom
margins being honoured.
Regards, Mark
Just to let people know that the LK464 can be made to work in both standard keyboard layout for use with a PC and also in OpenVMS mode for use via remote decterms/xterms on VMS boxes.
I've created two little icons on my command bar that run two scripts to install an xmodmap overlay to use the keyboard for either PC or VMS use. The overlay primarily swaps the functionality of the Find, Insert, Remove and Select keys between what is intuitive in PC mode and what is required when connecting to a VMS box. The Help and Do keys also work, as do PF1,PF3,PF4.
PF2 is the only key I haven't got mapped correctly, and I think that's because it is mapped to a window manager functionality (enable/disable trackpad).
There might be an automated way to apply keymaps to particular classes of windows, but I could grow old finding the right solution, and clicking on a couple of icons at the top of the screen is hardly arduous, especially as most of the time I'm in one mood or the other.
The LK464 OpenVMS modmap file is (PC mode is a straight dump of the default US mapping):
keycode 9=grave asciitilde
keycode 49 = less greater
keycode 199 = KP_F1
keycode 200 = KP_F2
keycode 201 = KP_F3
keycode 202 = KP_F4
keycode 110 = Find
keycode 115 = Select
keycode 191 = F13
keycode 192 = F14
keycode 142 = F16
keycode 195 = F17
keycode 196 = F18
keycode 197 = F19
keycode 198 = F20
keycode 108 = Alt_R
keycode 90 = KP_0
keycode 87 = KP_1
keycode 88 = KP_2
keycode 89 = KP_3
keycode 83 = KP_4
keycode 84 = KP_5
keycode 85 = KP_6
keycode 79 = KP_7
keycode 80 = KP_8
keycode 81 = KP_9
keycode 91 = KP_Decimal
keycode 129 = KP_Separator
keycode 22 = Delete
keycode 119 = 0x1000FF00
Regards, Mark.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
On 08/03/11 21:33, Gregg Levine wrote:
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Mark Wickens<mark at wickensonline.co.uk>
wrote:
Hi guys,
I have printing working to my LA75+ dot matrix printer via a spooled VMS
queue which communicates via LAT with the printer attached to a DECserver
90L+. Everything is working fine except for two issues:
1. I'd like to be able to print with a form definition which leaves a
margin
at the top and bottom of the page. I tried this:
$ DEFINE/FORM LISTING 3
/WIDTH=132/PAGE=66/MARGIN=(TOP=6,BOTTOM=6)/STOCK=DEFAULT/NOWRAP/TRUNCATE
$ SET QUEUE/DEFAULT=FORM=LISTING LA75$PRINT_ALEPH$
I tried asking Hoff but I think he's sick of my 80's related questions,
his
response was entitled:
Classic printing best left to masochistic perfectionists
<http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/766#comment-2424>
(http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/766)
I think I'm almost there, but the printer appears to be ignoring the
bottom
margin - I get a top margin fine, and the listing is not exhibiting
'rolling' ie the content of the output is aligned correctly on each page.
Anyone got any ideas what I can do? I want to be able to put listings in
vertical binders, and that just doesn't work without both top and bottom
margins being honoured.
Regards, Mark
Hello!
Mark I have several of those terminal servers here. How is yours
configured, and even wired to your system? (or systems?)
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Hi Greg,
It is wired to a 10MB router that has both a 10base2 (BNC) connector and
some 10baseT (RJ45) connectors via a thin wire BNC cable connected to
T-pieces with a 50 ohm terminator on each end. The 10MB router is connected
to a Netgear gigabit router via CAT-5 and then out to the rest of the world.
I configured the terminal server by connecting a terminal/pc terminal
emulator to port 1 via a DB9 to RJ45 cable. The management interface allows
you to then specify the name of the decserver and the name of the port, and
whether it is a printer/terminal port, speed, etc.
Once the port was configured I used the decserver/port name in the LAT
configuration on the VAX. I defined a virtual terminal pointing to that
decserver/port then pointed the printer queue to that.
The printer connects at 4800 baud to the specified printer port via a MMJ to
MMJ cable that came with it.
Hope that sheds some light,
Mark.
Hello!
Oh yes. With one of mine I had gotten as far as the configuration
steps. But the connectivity issues were the big one. Do you recall who
makes this "10MB router that has both a 10base2 (BNC) connector and
some 10baseT (RJ45) connectors". I've been trying to find one with
limited success about the time the first one arrived here.
Strangely enough both it, and a VAX Station 3100 arrived here from a
fellow on the original Linux-VAX list. There was one of those in the
list, but that went to a different individual, it might have been you,
then again I can't recall.
That VAX Station 3100 is next to get working, perhaps I'll have the
time to do so, this summer or later.
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
On 08/03/11 21:33, Gregg Levine wrote:
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Mark Wickens<mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
Hi guys,
I have printing working to my LA75+ dot matrix printer via a spooled VMS
queue which communicates via LAT with the printer attached to a DECserver
90L+. Everything is working fine except for two issues:
1. I'd like to be able to print with a form definition which leaves a margin
at the top and bottom of the page. I tried this:
$ DEFINE/FORM LISTING 3
/WIDTH=132/PAGE=66/MARGIN=(TOP=6,BOTTOM=6)/STOCK=DEFAULT/NOWRAP/TRUNCATE
$ SET QUEUE/DEFAULT=FORM=LISTING LA75$PRINT_ALEPH$
I tried asking Hoff but I think he's sick of my 80's related questions, his
response was entitled:
Classic printing best left to masochistic perfectionists
<http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/766#comment-2424>
(http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/766)
I think I'm almost there, but the printer appears to be ignoring the bottom
margin - I get a top margin fine, and the listing is not exhibiting
'rolling' ie the content of the output is aligned correctly on each page.
Anyone got any ideas what I can do? I want to be able to put listings in
vertical binders, and that just doesn't work without both top and bottom
margins being honoured.
Regards, Mark
Hello!
Mark I have several of those terminal servers here. How is yours
configured, and even wired to your system? (or systems?)
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
Hi Greg,
It is wired to a 10MB router that has both a 10base2 (BNC) connector and some 10baseT (RJ45) connectors via a thin wire BNC cable connected to T-pieces with a 50 ohm terminator on each end. The 10MB router is connected to a Netgear gigabit router via CAT-5 and then out to the rest of the world.
I configured the terminal server by connecting a terminal/pc terminal emulator to port 1 via a DB9 to RJ45 cable. The management interface allows you to then specify the name of the decserver and the name of the port, and whether it is a printer/terminal port, speed, etc.
Once the port was configured I used the decserver/port name in the LAT configuration on the VAX. I defined a virtual terminal pointing to that decserver/port then pointed the printer queue to that.
The printer connects at 4800 baud to the specified printer port via a MMJ to MMJ cable that came with it.
Hope that sheds some light,
Mark.
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:27 PM, Mark Wickens <mark at wickensonline.co.uk> wrote:
Hi guys,
I have printing working to my LA75+ dot matrix printer via a spooled VMS
queue which communicates via LAT with the printer attached to a DECserver
90L+. Everything is working fine except for two issues:
1. I'd like to be able to print with a form definition which leaves a margin
at the top and bottom of the page. I tried this:
$ DEFINE/FORM LISTING 3
/WIDTH=132/PAGE=66/MARGIN=(TOP=6,BOTTOM=6)/STOCK=DEFAULT/NOWRAP/TRUNCATE
$ SET QUEUE/DEFAULT=FORM=LISTING LA75$PRINT_ALEPH$
I tried asking Hoff but I think he's sick of my 80's related questions, his
response was entitled:
Classic printing best left to masochistic perfectionists
<http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/766#comment-2424>
(http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/766)
I think I'm almost there, but the printer appears to be ignoring the bottom
margin - I get a top margin fine, and the listing is not exhibiting
'rolling' ie the content of the output is aligned correctly on each page.
Anyone got any ideas what I can do? I want to be able to put listings in
vertical binders, and that just doesn't work without both top and bottom
margins being honoured.
Regards, Mark
Hello!
Mark I have several of those terminal servers here. How is yours
configured, and even wired to your system? (or systems?)
-----
Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com
"This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."
2. Printing to it from a DECterm using the print menu on the terminal and SIXEL graphics format produces a completely black image. If I use the print screen facility I do get a black and white representation of the screen area as captured.
Thanks for the help, Mark.
Hi guys,
I have printing working to my LA75+ dot matrix printer via a spooled VMS queue which communicates via LAT with the printer attached to a DECserver 90L+. Everything is working fine except for two issues:
1. I'd like to be able to print with a form definition which leaves a margin at the top and bottom of the page. I tried this:
$ DEFINE/FORM LISTING 3 /WIDTH=132/PAGE=66/MARGIN=(TOP=6,BOTTOM=6)/STOCK=DEFAULT/NOWRAP/TRUNCATE
$ SET QUEUE/DEFAULT=FORM=LISTING LA75$PRINT_ALEPH$
I tried asking Hoff but I think he's sick of my 80's related questions, his response was entitled:
Classic printing best left to masochistic perfectionists <http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/766#comment-2424> (http://labs.hoffmanlabs.com/node/766)
I think I'm almost there, but the printer appears to be ignoring the bottom margin - I get a top margin fine, and the listing is not exhibiting 'rolling' ie the content of the output is aligned correctly on each page.
Anyone got any ideas what I can do? I want to be able to put listings in vertical binders, and that just doesn't work without both top and bottom margins being honoured.
Regards, Mark
Mark,
I would start here:
http://h71000.www7.hp.com/doc/82final/6549/6549pro.html
-Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On
Behalf Of Mark Wickens
Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 3:54 PM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] Quick question about SDA...
On 06/03/11 20:52, Paul Koning wrote:
On which OS? "SDA" exists on more than one.
paul
On Mar 6, 2011, at 3:45 PM, Mark Wickens wrote:
Noticed reading from Hans page that you can use SDA to analyse a
system configuration.
How do I use that?
Mark.
Apologies for making assumptions! On VMS, in this case VAX/VMS 7.3
Mark.
On 06/03/11 20:52, Paul Koning wrote:
On which OS? "SDA" exists on more than one.
paul
On Mar 6, 2011, at 3:45 PM, Mark Wickens wrote:
Noticed reading from Hans page that you can use SDA to analyse a system configuration.
How do I use that?
Mark.
Apologies for making assumptions! On VMS, in this case VAX/VMS 7.3
Mark.
