Hi,
I also would like to connect my systems to HECnet and need some more details on which node to connect to. I can use DECnet-Plus with DECnet-over-IP (preferably) or Cisco tunneling.
I tried to ask the details from Johnny, but I didn't get an answer yet.
Regards,
Kari
On 27.6.2010 12:22, H Vlems wrote:
Hello, I've been reading HECnet mail for some time now and I want to connect
my systems too. I have a few questions though.
- Is it possible to run the bridge software on a VMS system?
- If not, would a Tru64 system do?
- What tools do I need to build the bridge software (from what I've learned
I guess a C compiler would do).
- I'm fairly used to my nodenumbers and nodenames. Given the amount of
systems (>30) could I have an area for my systems to maintain the node
addresses?
- Does the bridge software transmit LAT as well?
Regards,
Hans Vlems
PS
For a list of my systems : http://home.zonnet.nl/hvlems
.
Hi Hans,
RDBVMS V4.1 was released in 1992.
The kit I mentioned, RDBV7083, is from 2006. So it is somewhat more recent. :)
Btw. The last RDBVMS kit which was on SPL's was 6.1 and that was released in mid-1995. It can be found on the Jul-1995 and Dec-1995 SPL's.
If you want to upgrade from V4.1 to V7.0 you need to do some conversions. I don't remember which intermediate versions you need, but it should be described in the Release Notes.
I'll put the RDBV7083 kit on my anonymous ftp service and send a message when it is ready for download.
Regards,
Kari
On 27.6.2010 12:11, H Vlems wrote:
If that is more recent than V4.1 then I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know
how to gain access to your ftp server.
Hans
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Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] RDB media for VAX/VMS
On 27.6.2010 10:45, Mark Wickens wrote:
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 16:06 -0400, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Does anyone have media for a Digital or Oracle version of RDB for a VAX
running VMS 7.3?
I've got some RDB files from 2000 and 2005. I'm not sure what they are
as I don't recognize the names any longer, but you're welcome to take a
look at them. They are in DUSTY::.
The RDBV71431KIT_AMV.ZIP is the 2005 file, all the others are from 2000.
--Marc
Hi Marc,
I pulled the files down last night, but alas they are only for the Alpha
platform. Might anyone else be able to help? I'm not sure whether Rdb
ever appeared on the SPL?
Regards, Mark.
.
Hi Mark,
I do have a kit RDBV7083 for VAX from 2006. I'm not sure if that's the
latest one, but it should run on VAX-VMS V7.3.
If you want to get it, please inform me. I can put it on my anonymous ftp.
Regards,
Kari
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.
Hello, I've been reading HECnet mail for some time now and I want to connect
my systems too. I have a few questions though.
- Is it possible to run the bridge software on a VMS system?
- If not, would a Tru64 system do?
- What tools do I need to build the bridge software (from what I've learned
I guess a C compiler would do).
- I'm fairly used to my nodenumbers and nodenames. Given the amount of
systems (>30) could I have an area for my systems to maintain the node
addresses?
- Does the bridge software transmit LAT as well?
Regards,
Hans Vlems
PS
For a list of my systems : http://home.zonnet.nl/hvlems
If that is more recent than V4.1 then I'd appreciate it if you'd let me know
how to gain access to your ftp server.
Hans
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Kari Uusim ki
Verzonden: zondag, juni 2010 11:08
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] RDB media for VAX/VMS
On 27.6.2010 10:45, Mark Wickens wrote:
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 16:06 -0400, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Does anyone have media for a Digital or Oracle version of RDB for a VAX
running VMS 7.3?
I've got some RDB files from 2000 and 2005. I'm not sure what they are
as I don't recognize the names any longer, but you're welcome to take a
look at them. They are in DUSTY::.
The RDBV71431KIT_AMV.ZIP is the 2005 file, all the others are from 2000.
--Marc
Hi Marc,
I pulled the files down last night, but alas they are only for the Alpha
platform. Might anyone else be able to help? I'm not sure whether Rdb
ever appeared on the SPL?
Regards, Mark.
.
Hi Mark,
I do have a kit RDBV7083 for VAX from 2006. I'm not sure if that's the
latest one, but it should run on VAX-VMS V7.3.
If you want to get it, please inform me. I can put it on my anonymous ftp.
Regards,
Kari
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08:35:00
I have RDBVMS V4.1 on a cd.
Hans
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
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Mark Wickens
Verzonden: zondag, juni 2010 9:46
Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] RDB media for VAX/VMS
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 16:06 -0400, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Does anyone have media for a Digital or Oracle version of RDB for a VAX
running VMS 7.3?
I've got some RDB files from 2000 and 2005. I'm not sure what they are
as I don't recognize the names any longer, but you're welcome to take a
look at them. They are in DUSTY::.
The RDBV71431KIT_AMV.ZIP is the 2005 file, all the others are from 2000.
--Marc
Hi Marc,
I pulled the files down last night, but alas they are only for the Alpha
platform. Might anyone else be able to help? I'm not sure whether Rdb
ever appeared on the SPL?
Regards, Mark.
Geen virus gevonden in het binnenkomende-bericht.
Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com
Versie: 9.0.830 / Virusdatabase: 271.1.1/2963 - datum van uitgifte: 06/25/10
20:35:00
On 27.6.2010 10:45, Mark Wickens wrote:
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 16:06 -0400, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Does anyone have media for a Digital or Oracle version of RDB for a VAX
running VMS 7.3?
I've got some RDB files from 2000 and 2005. I'm not sure what they are
as I don't recognize the names any longer, but you're welcome to take a
look at them. They are in DUSTY::.
The RDBV71431KIT_AMV.ZIP is the 2005 file, all the others are from 2000.
--Marc
Hi Marc,
I pulled the files down last night, but alas they are only for the Alpha
platform. Might anyone else be able to help? I'm not sure whether Rdb
ever appeared on the SPL?
Regards, Mark.
.
Hi Mark,
I do have a kit RDBV7083 for VAX from 2006. I'm not sure if that's the latest one, but it should run on VAX-VMS V7.3.
If you want to get it, please inform me. I can put it on my anonymous ftp.
Regards,
Kari
On Sat, 2010-06-26 at 16:06 -0400, Marc Chametzky wrote:
Does anyone have media for a Digital or Oracle version of RDB for a VAX
running VMS 7.3?
I've got some RDB files from 2000 and 2005. I'm not sure what they are
as I don't recognize the names any longer, but you're welcome to take a
look at them. They are in DUSTY::.
The RDBV71431KIT_AMV.ZIP is the 2005 file, all the others are from 2000.
--Marc
Hi Marc,
I pulled the files down last night, but alas they are only for the Alpha
platform. Might anyone else be able to help? I'm not sure whether Rdb
ever appeared on the SPL?
Regards, Mark.
Brian Hechinger wrote:
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 12:02:30PM -0400, Fred wrote:
Also, I would want to setup the bridge as well. Are there any direction on
setting the bridge program up to talk directly to simh?
To quote a movie "That's not my area" ... (so I won't comment) :)
Well then, I'll wait for someone who's area it is to answer. :-D
There are no specifics for setting the bridge for simh. You just need a machine that runs the bridge, and it will bridge everything for DECnet, including traffic from a simh machine. It's no different than any other machine talking DECnet.
Johnny
On Fri, 2010-06-25 at 10:18 +0100, Michael-John Turner wrote:
On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 08:12:11AM +0100, Mark Wickens wrote:
Not sure how much interest will be generated long term, but there were a
few people who'd heard of hecnet and a few who said they'd like to get a
machine up and running on it.
Although I didn't manage to chat to you while I was there, yours was by far
my favourite stand at VCF UK. It was great to come across some VAXen in a
sea of home computers (which don't really interest me a great deal, to be
honest). I was rather amused to see two guys wondering why Unix commands
weren't working on an OpenVMS system :)
I've been subscribed to this list for years and seeing your machines has
finally given me the kick I need to dig out a VAX, reinstall OpenVMS and
get connected to HECNET.
(Resending this as I don't think my original reply got through due to using
an address not subscribed to the list).
-mj
Hi MJ,
Well, I'm sorry I missed talking to you. Yes, the Scandinavians (at
least that's the accent I detected) were very amusing, although I
couldn't quite work out what the interest was in the Digital Unix based
Alpha system seeing as how they were transfixed with the output of
'uname -a' for a couple of minutes. Certainly the 'unrecognised command
verb' issued on the VT320 didn't hold anywhere near as much interest,
but certainly it was amusing (do any machines exist out there that don't
run windows or macOS or linux?)!
I think it a little bit of a shame and possible somewhat of a dichotomy
that the event was geared so much towards gaming computers, given some
of the current restoration projects going on within the VCF. However,
all credit for them for pulling it off - I know how much effort is
required for a 30 person event - the organiser Simon seemed quite calm
given the scale of the event.
It was a shame that my primary VAX/VMS machine that I do most of my
development and experimentation on decided not to play ball at the event
(I think it would have been impressive to see the VAX jump through some
modern day hoops successfully) but at least, after all the fretting, it
booted happily when it got back home. Not sure what that was about - I'm
not one to personalise machines, but it's hard not to when a box that
refused to boot at one location is happy when it get back home again (I
got some use out of it over the weekend as a demonstration of how well
DEC stuff is engineered - 'lets take this box apart with one hand')
Get that VAX connected to hecnet - my interest is still strong and I
still feel like a 'noob'. Certainly, I think there is scope on hecnet.eu
for a 'projects' list where people can chip in on other people's pet
projects. Bless him Malcolm Blunden (who I met at my DEC Legacy Event)
has been guiding me in the art of VMS sysadm since he got an account on
my (very amateurishly configured) box BUBBLE and solving some
'interesting' VMS based problems, such as producing the content of the
'wall' on hecnet.eu, and also Steve Davidson who was configuring ORAC
(the machine that went to the VCF) on the night before and morning that
the power got turned off and the box put in the boot of the car! I've
also learnt a lot from Steve!
My own personal goal is to get an SMTP to ALLIN1 mail gateway running,
but I know I am going to have to draw on other people's talents.
Also - shameless plug - the retrochallenge is due to start in less than
a week for the month of July - I would encourage everyone to drop in to
the website and see what is going on (at the very least) or preferably
have a go! Really, all you have to do is tell the organiser what you
plan to play with, create a web page/gopher space/telnet server/etc and
off you go. It's really nice focussing on something retro for a month
with the support and interest of other fellow retroheads. I've been
amazed at how much I've got done in a month considering I spend most of
my time 'thinking about living that retro-life' instead of getting on
with it.
Website: http://www.retrochallenge.net
BBS: telnet bbs.retrochallenge.net
Twitter: http://twitter.com/retrochallenge
Last14me: http://www.wickensonline.co.uk/rc2010ww/index.html
Right, back to the excellent Muse set at Glastonbury (my nostrils are
ok, so I must be watching it on TV!)
Regards, Mark.
Does anyone have media for a Digital or Oracle version of RDB for a VAX
running VMS 7.3?
I've got some RDB files from 2000 and 2005. I'm not sure what they are as I don't recognize the names any longer, but you're welcome to take a look at them. They are in DUSTY::.
The RDBV71431KIT_AMV.ZIP is the 2005 file, all the others are from 2000.
--Marc
