Good idea, however as I'm planning to initially make access via DECNET only I don't think we need a password - I will eventually move the stuff onto my hosting service, with a password of course.
Sampsa
On 17 Sep 2009, at 19:02, Kari Uusim ki wrote:
I don't think HP will object, because VMS media copying isn't restricted as far as you don't do business with it. There are no licenses included on the media so nobody can in fact use the licensed software without licenses.
The idea itself is good from a hobbyist point of view. Personally I would restrict the access to the kits e.g. with a password. There is a risk of the kits ending up on some torrent network and that could be something HP wouldn't like.
Kari
Sampsa Laine wrote:
I understand the concerns about copyrights etc, but I doubt this would bother HP to any great degree, and if it does, I'd take the library down immediately.
I'm going to start putting stuff in RHESUS::[.MEDIALIB] later this week.
Sampsa
On 17 Sep 2009, at 17:58, Zane H. Healy wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I thought it might be useful to set up a library of VMS media kits (and maybe RSX / RSTS etc as well) - basically images of VMS install CDs, layered products etc, all in one convenient location.
I'm willing to donate some space on RHESUS for this use, say 100 GB?
I've got a copy of the VAX and Alpha software product libraries lying around as well as a couple of versions of VMS for Alpha and VAX as well as IA64 - any contributions would be welcome of course.
Anyone else interested in this?
There are problems with doing this, especially for the PDP-11. At the same
time, HECnet is fairly private, decidedly hobbyist, and I think Christine
might be the only one with non-DEC hardware connected (I plan to get ZEUS,
my Linux system, back online on new hardware one of these days).
I have been meaning to add some more disk space to PDXVAX and put the
contents of the VAX/VMS Hobbyist V1 CD back online. I for one would find it
useful to also have DECUS software repositories on HECnet. I had the V1 CD
online when PDXVAX was first connected, but then switched from multiple 4GB
7200RPM drives in a BA350 shelf to a single 2GB 5400RPM drive in a BA353 to
cut down on the noise and heat. The BA353 is dead, and noise is no longer
an issue, heat during the summer will be a problem, though in the winter it
will be an advantage.
Zane
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If someone has interest, I might be able to share Tru64 software kits.
DECnet is working on Tru64 also. ;)
Kari
Chrissie Caulfield wrote:
On 17 Sep 2009, at 17:58, Zane H. Healy wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I thought it might be useful to set up a library of VMS media kits (and maybe RSX / RSTS etc as well) - basically images of VMS install CDs, layered products etc, all in one convenient location.
I'm willing to donate some space on RHESUS for this use, say 100 GB?
I've got a copy of the VAX and Alpha software product libraries lying around as well as a couple of versions of VMS for Alpha and VAX as well as IA64 - any contributions would be welcome of course.
Anyone else interested in this?
There are problems with doing this, especially for the PDP-11. At the same
time, HECnet is fairly private, decidedly hobbyist, and I think Christine
might be the only one with non-DEC hardware connected (I plan to get ZEUS,
my Linux system, back online on new hardware one of these days).
I have a set of Ultrix (VAX and MIPS) lying around if they are use to anyone! I'd be happy to make them available. I don't have licences though!
Chrissie
I have been meaning to add some more disk space to PDXVAX and put the
contents of the VAX/VMS Hobbyist V1 CD back online. I for one would find it
useful to also have DECUS software repositories on HECnet. I had the V1 CD
online when PDXVAX was first connected, but then switched from multiple 4GB
7200RPM drives in a BA350 shelf to a single 2GB 5400RPM drive in a BA353 to
cut down on the noise and heat. The BA353 is dead, and noise is no longer
an issue, heat during the summer will be a problem, though in the winter it
will be an advantage.
Zane
.
I don't think HP will object, because VMS media copying isn't restricted as far as you don't do business with it. There are no licenses included on the media so nobody can in fact use the licensed software without licenses.
The idea itself is good from a hobbyist point of view. Personally I would restrict the access to the kits e.g. with a password. There is a risk of the kits ending up on some torrent network and that could be something HP wouldn't like.
Kari
Sampsa Laine wrote:
I understand the concerns about copyrights etc, but I doubt this would bother HP to any great degree, and if it does, I'd take the library down immediately.
I'm going to start putting stuff in RHESUS::[.MEDIALIB] later this week.
Sampsa
On 17 Sep 2009, at 17:58, Zane H. Healy wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I thought it might be useful to set up a library of VMS media kits (and maybe RSX / RSTS etc as well) - basically images of VMS install CDs, layered products etc, all in one convenient location.
I'm willing to donate some space on RHESUS for this use, say 100 GB?
I've got a copy of the VAX and Alpha software product libraries lying around as well as a couple of versions of VMS for Alpha and VAX as well as IA64 - any contributions would be welcome of course.
Anyone else interested in this?
There are problems with doing this, especially for the PDP-11. At the same
time, HECnet is fairly private, decidedly hobbyist, and I think Christine
might be the only one with non-DEC hardware connected (I plan to get ZEUS,
my Linux system, back online on new hardware one of these days).
I have been meaning to add some more disk space to PDXVAX and put the
contents of the VAX/VMS Hobbyist V1 CD back online. I for one would find it
useful to also have DECUS software repositories on HECnet. I had the V1 CD
online when PDXVAX was first connected, but then switched from multiple 4GB
7200RPM drives in a BA350 shelf to a single 2GB 5400RPM drive in a BA353 to
cut down on the noise and heat. The BA353 is dead, and noise is no longer
an issue, heat during the summer will be a problem, though in the winter it
will be an advantage.
Zane
.
Chrissie,
Can you make ISOs of them and send me an HTTP / FTP address to download them from (or point me to the relevant location on HECnet)?.
Sampsa
On 17 Sep 2009, at 18:45, Chrissie Caulfield wrote:
On 17 Sep 2009, at 17:58, Zane H. Healy wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I thought it might be useful to set up a library of VMS media kits (and maybe RSX / RSTS etc as well) - basically images of VMS install CDs, layered products etc, all in one convenient location.
I'm willing to donate some space on RHESUS for this use, say 100 GB?
I've got a copy of the VAX and Alpha software product libraries lying around as well as a couple of versions of VMS for Alpha and VAX as well as IA64 - any contributions would be welcome of course.
Anyone else interested in this?
There are problems with doing this, especially for the PDP-11. At the same
time, HECnet is fairly private, decidedly hobbyist, and I think Christine
might be the only one with non-DEC hardware connected (I plan to get ZEUS,
my Linux system, back online on new hardware one of these days).
I have a set of Ultrix (VAX and MIPS) lying around if they are use to anyone! I'd be happy to make them available. I don't have licences though!
Chrissie
I have been meaning to add some more disk space to PDXVAX and put the
contents of the VAX/VMS Hobbyist V1 CD back online. I for one would find it
useful to also have DECUS software repositories on HECnet. I had the V1 CD
online when PDXVAX was first connected, but then switched from multiple 4GB
7200RPM drives in a BA350 shelf to a single 2GB 5400RPM drive in a BA353 to
cut down on the noise and heat. The BA353 is dead, and noise is no longer
an issue, heat during the summer will be a problem, though in the winter it
will be an advantage.
Zane
On 17 Sep 2009, at 17:58, Zane H. Healy wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I thought it might be useful to set up a library of VMS media kits (and maybe RSX / RSTS etc as well) - basically images of VMS install CDs, layered products etc, all in one convenient location.
I'm willing to donate some space on RHESUS for this use, say 100 GB?
I've got a copy of the VAX and Alpha software product libraries lying around as well as a couple of versions of VMS for Alpha and VAX as well as IA64 - any contributions would be welcome of course.
Anyone else interested in this?
There are problems with doing this, especially for the PDP-11. At the same
time, HECnet is fairly private, decidedly hobbyist, and I think Christine
might be the only one with non-DEC hardware connected (I plan to get ZEUS,
my Linux system, back online on new hardware one of these days).
I have a set of Ultrix (VAX and MIPS) lying around if they are use to anyone! I'd be happy to make them available. I don't have licences though!
Chrissie
I have been meaning to add some more disk space to PDXVAX and put the
contents of the VAX/VMS Hobbyist V1 CD back online. I for one would find it
useful to also have DECUS software repositories on HECnet. I had the V1 CD
online when PDXVAX was first connected, but then switched from multiple 4GB
7200RPM drives in a BA350 shelf to a single 2GB 5400RPM drive in a BA353 to
cut down on the noise and heat. The BA353 is dead, and noise is no longer
an issue, heat during the summer will be a problem, though in the winter it
will be an advantage.
Zane
I understand the concerns about copyrights etc, but I doubt this would bother HP to any great degree, and if it does, I'd take the library down immediately.
I'm going to start putting stuff in RHESUS::[.MEDIALIB] later this week.
Sampsa
On 17 Sep 2009, at 17:58, Zane H. Healy wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I thought it might be useful to set up a library of VMS media kits (and maybe RSX / RSTS etc as well) - basically images of VMS install CDs, layered products etc, all in one convenient location.
I'm willing to donate some space on RHESUS for this use, say 100 GB?
I've got a copy of the VAX and Alpha software product libraries lying around as well as a couple of versions of VMS for Alpha and VAX as well as IA64 - any contributions would be welcome of course.
Anyone else interested in this?
There are problems with doing this, especially for the PDP-11. At the same
time, HECnet is fairly private, decidedly hobbyist, and I think Christine
might be the only one with non-DEC hardware connected (I plan to get ZEUS,
my Linux system, back online on new hardware one of these days).
I have been meaning to add some more disk space to PDXVAX and put the
contents of the VAX/VMS Hobbyist V1 CD back online. I for one would find it
useful to also have DECUS software repositories on HECnet. I had the V1 CD
online when PDXVAX was first connected, but then switched from multiple 4GB
7200RPM drives in a BA350 shelf to a single 2GB 5400RPM drive in a BA353 to
cut down on the noise and heat. The BA353 is dead, and noise is no longer
an issue, heat during the summer will be a problem, though in the winter it
will be an advantage.
Zane
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009, Sampsa Laine wrote:
I thought it might be useful to set up a library of VMS media kits (and maybe RSX / RSTS etc as well) - basically images of VMS install CDs, layered products etc, all in one convenient location.
I'm willing to donate some space on RHESUS for this use, say 100 GB?
I've got a copy of the VAX and Alpha software product libraries lying around as well as a couple of versions of VMS for Alpha and VAX as well as IA64 - any contributions would be welcome of course.
Anyone else interested in this?
There are problems with doing this, especially for the PDP-11. At the same
time, HECnet is fairly private, decidedly hobbyist, and I think Christine
might be the only one with non-DEC hardware connected (I plan to get ZEUS,
my Linux system, back online on new hardware one of these days).
I have been meaning to add some more disk space to PDXVAX and put the
contents of the VAX/VMS Hobbyist V1 CD back online. I for one would find it
useful to also have DECUS software repositories on HECnet. I had the V1 CD
online when PDXVAX was first connected, but then switched from multiple 4GB
7200RPM drives in a BA350 shelf to a single 2GB 5400RPM drive in a BA353 to
cut down on the noise and heat. The BA353 is dead, and noise is no longer
an issue, heat during the summer will be a problem, though in the winter it
will be an advantage.
Zane
Guys,
I thought it might be useful to set up a library of VMS media kits (and maybe RSX / RSTS etc as well) - basically images of VMS install CDs, layered products etc, all in one convenient location.
I'm willing to donate some space on RHESUS for this use, say 100 GB?
I've got a copy of the VAX and Alpha software product libraries lying around as well as a couple of versions of VMS for Alpha and VAX as well as IA64 - any contributions would be welcome of course.
Anyone else interested in this?
Sampsa
Cool, that worked, thanks!
Sampsa
On 17 Sep 2009, at 16:27, gerry77 at mail.com wrote:
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:18:59 +0100, you wrote:
Basically, I've run the following command in AUTHORIZE:
UAF> ADD/PROXY CHIMPY::SYSTEM SYSTEM
%UAF-I-NAFADDMSG, proxy from CHIMPY::SYSTEM to SYSTEM added
But then when trying to access a directory on RHESUS from CHIMPY I get
the following error:
CHIMPYSYS$ dir rhesus::dka0:[temp]
Directory RHESUS::DKA0:[TEMP]
*.*;* insufficient privilege or object protection violation
Try marking those proxy records as /DEFAULT
HTH,
G.
On Thu, 17 Sep 2009 16:18:59 +0100, you wrote:
Basically, I've run the following command in AUTHORIZE:
UAF> ADD/PROXY CHIMPY::SYSTEM SYSTEM
%UAF-I-NAFADDMSG, proxy from CHIMPY::SYSTEM to SYSTEM added
But then when trying to access a directory on RHESUS from CHIMPY I get
the following error:
CHIMPYSYS$ dir rhesus::dka0:[temp]
Directory RHESUS::DKA0:[TEMP]
*.*;* insufficient privilege or object protection violation
Try marking those proxy records as /DEFAULT
HTH,
G.
