HECnet October 2009

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by bqt＠softjar.se

I have someone booting some DECserver 200 which was served by PONDUS:: (It's all in the logs...) Only a couple of days ago. Johnny Steve Davidson wrote: I use NetBSD for both the HECnet bridge link and MOP. Sampsa, when you get a chance put a console cable (and terminal) on the DS200 and power it up. It should tell you the MAC address of the boot host. From there we can figure out which system is actually loading the box. It could be any number of systems on HECnet depending on which one is available at the time of the boot and which ones pass MOP. It could even be mine... :-) -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Mark Wickens Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 04:53 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] RHESUS is (finally) up again On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 08:49 +0000, Christine Caulfield wrote: On 28/10/09 08:33, Christine Caulfield wrote: On 28/10/09 02:48, Zane H. Healy wrote: At 2:38 AM +0000 10/28/09, Sampsa Laine wrote: I'm going to order a whole bunch of null-modem cables and wire them into my DECserver 200 - wire up CHIMPY, CHIMPY and RHESUS through it that way - I assume it's possible to connect from one serial port on a DS to another? I don't know if the DECserver 200 allows you to hook up system consoles. I know that my 90L+ does not. :-( One problem I see is that you have to boot the DECserver 200 via MOP if I remember correctly before you can use it. Yes, you can use a DS200 for consoles. I used to have one doing just that for quite a few systems. You can mop boot it from link you know ... search for "mopd" That should have bee Linux, not link, sorry. ... it's too early. CHrissie Yes, and netbsd too which is what I was doing till the dang thing died on me. However, phoenix from the flames and all that ;) I'm keen to see how much faster I can get the VT520 talking to the 90M. Regards, Mark.

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Terminal (servers), cables (was Re: [HECnet] RHESUS is (finally) up again)

by jeep＠scshome.net

The RJ45 to MMJ adapter is known as a H8584-AA (in my case REV A). I use them on my DEChub-90TL's. They work GREAT! They can be hard to find these days and also costly, but well worth it. Start on Ebay. -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Fred Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 08:50 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Terminal (servers), cables (was Re: [HECnet] RHESUS is (finally) up again) On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Mark Wickens wrote: Yes, and netbsd too which is what I was doing till the dang thing died on me. However, phoenix from the flames and all that ;) I'm keen to see how much faster I can get the VT520 talking to the 90M. The 90M I have must have flash in it of some sort, as it boots if MISER is down, although it takes about 2 days ... ;) I have a line on a 700 with flash so I'm hoping I can "upgrade". You shouldn't have a problem hooking that 520 up to your 90M, because I'm typing this to you on my VT525 connected to the 90M, connected via LAT to MISER and ssh'ed into my main Linux machine. (whew!). This way I don't have to fire any of my workstations up in the morning before I get underway for the day just to check the mail (simplicity, eleganace and all that). I also have a VT220 I'd like to hook up in the living room someday ... :) I figure 50 feet at 9600 would work just fine. Your issue (like mine was) may be cables - either you'll have to use a RJ45 to MMJ cable wired appropriately, or get some of those RJ45->mmj things that plug into the terminal server. I have a wiring guide for DECServers if you need it and can place it on a HECNet accessible drive - just let me know. I have an abomination of a connector/cable hooking the 90M to MISER's console, some DB25-9pin job connected to a null modem adapter connected to a db25-mmj with then some silver satin running to the decserver ... I'd like to clean that up as MISER is in possession of my only null modem adapter!! :) Cheers, Fred ---- Lets call it for what it is - "legacy" is a term that people use in a polite but derogatory manner to imply that the future direction they prefer is not that which they view as the current direction.

15 years

RHESUS is (finally) up again

by jeep＠scshome.net

I use NetBSD for both the HECnet bridge link and MOP. Sampsa, when you get a chance put a console cable (and terminal) on the DS200 and power it up. It should tell you the MAC address of the boot host. From there we can figure out which system is actually loading the box. It could be any number of systems on HECnet depending on which one is available at the time of the boot and which ones pass MOP. It could even be mine... :-) -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Mark Wickens Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 04:53 To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] RHESUS is (finally) up again On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 08:49 +0000, Christine Caulfield wrote: On 28/10/09 08:33, Christine Caulfield wrote: On 28/10/09 02:48, Zane H. Healy wrote: At 2:38 AM +0000 10/28/09, Sampsa Laine wrote: I'm going to order a whole bunch of null-modem cables and wire them into my DECserver 200 - wire up CHIMPY, CHIMPY and RHESUS through it that way - I assume it's possible to connect from one serial port on a DS to another? I don't know if the DECserver 200 allows you to hook up system consoles. I know that my 90L+ does not. :-( One problem I see is that you have to boot the DECserver 200 via MOP if I remember correctly before you can use it. Yes, you can use a DS200 for consoles. I used to have one doing just that for quite a few systems. You can mop boot it from link you know ... search for "mopd" That should have bee Linux, not link, sorry. ... it's too early. CHrissie Yes, and netbsd too which is what I was doing till the dang thing died on me. However, phoenix from the flames and all that ;) I'm keen to see how much faster I can get the VT520 talking to the 90M. Regards, Mark.

15 years

Terminal (servers), cables (was Re: [HECnet] RHESUS is (finally) up again)

by fcoffey＠thrifty.misernet.net

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Mark Wickens wrote: Yes, and netbsd too which is what I was doing till the dang thing died on me. However, phoenix from the flames and all that ;) I'm keen to see how much faster I can get the VT520 talking to the 90M. The 90M I have must have flash in it of some sort, as it boots if MISER is down, although it takes about 2 days ... ;) I have a line on a 700 with flash so I'm hoping I can "upgrade". You shouldn't have a problem hooking that 520 up to your 90M, because I'm typing this to you on my VT525 connected to the 90M, connected via LAT to MISER and ssh'ed into my main Linux machine. (whew!). This way I don't have to fire any of my workstations up in the morning before I get underway for the day just to check the mail (simplicity, eleganace and all that). I also have a VT220 I'd like to hook up in the living room someday ... :) I figure 50 feet at 9600 would work just fine. Your issue (like mine was) may be cables - either you'll have to use a RJ45 to MMJ cable wired appropriately, or get some of those RJ45->mmj things that plug into the terminal server. I have a wiring guide for DECServers if you need it and can place it on a HECNet accessible drive - just let me know. I have an abomination of a connector/cable hooking the 90M to MISER's console, some DB25-9pin job connected to a null modem adapter connected to a db25-mmj with then some silver satin running to the decserver ... I'd like to clean that up as MISER is in possession of my only null modem adapter!! :) Cheers, Fred ---- Lets call it for what it is - "legacy" is a term that people use in a polite but derogatory manner to imply that the future direction they prefer is not that which they view as the current direction.

15 years

RHESUS is (finally) up again

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

On Wed, 2009-10-28 at 08:49 +0000, Christine Caulfield wrote: On 28/10/09 08:33, Christine Caulfield wrote: On 28/10/09 02:48, Zane H. Healy wrote: At 2:38 AM +0000 10/28/09, Sampsa Laine wrote: I'm going to order a whole bunch of null-modem cables and wire them into my DECserver 200 - wire up CHIMPY, CHIMPY and RHESUS through it that way - I assume it's possible to connect from one serial port on a DS to another? I don't know if the DECserver 200 allows you to hook up system consoles. I know that my 90L+ does not. :-( One problem I see is that you have to boot the DECserver 200 via MOP if I remember correctly before you can use it. Yes, you can use a DS200 for consoles. I used to have one doing just that for quite a few systems. You can mop boot it from link you know ... search for "mopd" That should have bee Linux, not link, sorry. ... it's too early. CHrissie Yes, and netbsd too which is what I was doing till the dang thing died on me. However, phoenix from the flames and all that ;) I'm keen to see how much faster I can get the VT520 talking to the 90M. Regards, Mark.

15 years

RHESUS is (finally) up again

by christine.caulfield＠googlemail.com

On 28/10/09 08:33, Christine Caulfield wrote: On 28/10/09 02:48, Zane H. Healy wrote: At 2:38 AM +0000 10/28/09, Sampsa Laine wrote: I'm going to order a whole bunch of null-modem cables and wire them into my DECserver 200 - wire up CHIMPY, CHIMPY and RHESUS through it that way - I assume it's possible to connect from one serial port on a DS to another? I don't know if the DECserver 200 allows you to hook up system consoles. I know that my 90L+ does not. :-( One problem I see is that you have to boot the DECserver 200 via MOP if I remember correctly before you can use it. Yes, you can use a DS200 for consoles. I used to have one doing just that for quite a few systems. You can mop boot it from link you know ... search for "mopd" That should have bee Linux, not link, sorry. ... it's too early. CHrissie

15 years

hecnet.eu

by mark＠wickensonline.co.uk

The hecnet.eu domain is currently being transferred. When that's complete I'd like to get the mail11 gateway configured and then I'll start on a website. When we're all generally happy with the website, it would be nice if it was hosted elsewhere, however, I'm keen to keep it on a box connected to hecnet if that's possible - living the dream and all that, and it will mean that we can provide information about the network status directly and possibly develop some other cool applications. Regards, Mark. --

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RHESUS is (finally) up again

by christine.caulfield＠googlemail.com

On 28/10/09 02:48, Zane H. Healy wrote: At 2:38 AM +0000 10/28/09, Sampsa Laine wrote: I'm going to order a whole bunch of null-modem cables and wire them into my DECserver 200 - wire up CHIMPY, CHIMPY and RHESUS through it that way - I assume it's possible to connect from one serial port on a DS to another? I don't know if the DECserver 200 allows you to hook up system consoles. I know that my 90L+ does not. :-( One problem I see is that you have to boot the DECserver 200 via MOP if I remember correctly before you can use it. Yes, you can use a DS200 for consoles. I used to have one doing just that for quite a few systems. You can mop boot it from link you know ... search for "mopd" Chrissie

15 years

RHESUS is (finally) up again

by bqt＠softjar.se

Guilty, PONDUS is usually the machine that reacts most quickly to DECserver boot requests... And yes, you can define a service to do that. I'm already doing it for a few console ports. Johnny Sampsa Laine wrote: Oh it already boots - no idea where from though :) As for the system console, can't I just define the port as a LAT service (say CPYCON) and the set host/lat to it? Sampsa On 28 Oct 2009, at 02:48, Zane H. Healy wrote: At 2:38 AM +0000 10/28/09, Sampsa Laine wrote: I'm going to order a whole bunch of null-modem cables and wire them into my DECserver 200 - wire up CHIMPY, CHIMPY and RHESUS through it that way - I assume it's possible to connect from one serial port on a DS to another? I don't know if the DECserver 200 allows you to hook up system consoles. I know that my 90L+ does not. :-( One problem I see is that you have to boot the DECserver 200 via MOP if I remember correctly before you can use it. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ | -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol

15 years

RHESUS is (finally) up again

by sampsa＠mac.com

Oh it already boots - no idea where from though :) As for the system console, can't I just define the port as a LAT service (say CPYCON) and the set host/lat to it? Sampsa On 28 Oct 2009, at 02:48, Zane H. Healy wrote: At 2:38 AM +0000 10/28/09, Sampsa Laine wrote: I'm going to order a whole bunch of null-modem cables and wire them into my DECserver 200 - wire up CHIMPY, CHIMPY and RHESUS through it that way - I assume it's possible to connect from one serial port on a DS to another? I don't know if the DECserver 200 allows you to hook up system consoles. I know that my 90L+ does not. :-( One problem I see is that you have to boot the DECserver 200 via MOP if I remember correctly before you can use it. Zane -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh at aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ |

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