On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Bob Armstrong wrote:
To you guys? I don't mind you guys knowing where I live ...
Depends on whether I remembered to mow the grass before the Google truck
came around...
Hehe... Hmmm, I wish there was a datestamp that shows when Google had
driven by. I know it was apparently on a Tuesday, but no idea what year. Actually might be 2007. Interesting seeing how a couple things looked prior
to our buying the house. I'm not surprised to see zero difference between
the house then, and the house now, but the neighborhood has definitely
changed.
Zane
To you guys? I don't mind you guys knowing where I live ...
Depends on whether I remembered to mow the grass before the Google truck
came around...
Bob
To you guys? I don't mind you guys knowing where I live, you all seem pretty cool. Now I wouldn't post the info on my blog or Facebook, I tend to say more controversial things there.
Sampsa
On 19 Oct 2009, at 18:55, Zane H. Healy wrote:
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Bob Armstrong wrote:
so we can look at satellite map and see real location of node :)
I'm not sure I want to tell :-)
I have to question how many people want to let out that level of detail.
Zane
On Mon, 19 Oct 2009, Bob Armstrong wrote:
so we can look at satellite map and see real location of node :)
I'm not sure I want to tell :-)
I have to question how many people want to let out that level of detail.
Zane
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 07:17:18PM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote:
You don't do DMA from CPU to a device. Remember what DMA stands for? :-)
Oh, duh. I knew that. I blame a lack of coffee. ;)
Hmm, I realized one thing, though. With a common Qbus, all interrupts
will probably go to the bus master arbiter, which means that all devices
actually must be attached to CPA, except such devices that are local to
each CPU, such as the console terminal.
That solves that problem. :)
And in RSX speak, the CPUs are called CPA, CPB, CPC and CPD. Here is how
it looks on MIM::
.con dis full att for sys
SYS SYS Online,Accpath
PDP-11/74mP, EIS,UNIBUS_Map,D-Space,SWR,Cache,FPP,
Clock=KW11-L, $TKPS=50., $TTPRM=000002
.con dis full att for cp
CPA CPA Online,Accpath
Cache_control=000001, Timer=Off, Alarm=Off
CPB CPB Offline,Accpath
Cache_control=000001, Timer=Off, Alarm=Off
CPC CPC Online,Accpath
Cache_control=000001, Timer=Off, Alarm=Off
CPD CPD Offline,Accpath
Cache_control=000001, Timer=Off, Alarm=Off
.con dis full att for du
DUA CPA Online,Accpath,Driver
Csr=172150, Vector=000154, Pri=000005, Urm=000001
DU0: CPA DUA0: Online,Accpath,Context,Driver,Type=RZ29
DU1: CPA DUA1: Online,Accpath,Driver,Type=RD53
DU2: CPA DUA2: Online,Accpath,Driver,Type=RD52
DU3: CPA DUA3: Offline,Accpath,Driver
DU4: Online,Accpath,Context,Driver,Type=VRA82
.
Notice that CPA and CPC are online.
And DUA is attached to CPA, and so on...
That's nifty. I can't wait to get mine setup. :)
-brian
--
"Coding in C is like sending a 3 year old to do groceries. You gotta
tell them exactly what you want or you'll end up with a cupboard full of
pop tarts and pancake mix." -- IRC User (http://www.bash.org/?841435)
Johnny Billquist wrote:
Makes you wish you had a real PDP-11/74 around... :-)
Hmm, we have several 11/70 you know. Could we build one? Or would we have to rebuild the whole cache/memory tingies?
Hehe. Yes, we have three PDP-11/70 machines.
I have two myself.
Cool. Any of them running? Between us here, we are now up to five PDP-11/70 machines. That is pretty impressive.
They're not running, but at least one of them is in running condition. I still need to find time to perform a detailed examination of the other one. It is probably runnable too.
Update have two 11/70 in the high cabinets, and one in corporate cabinet.
I have one in standard racks (H960?), and the other is a DECdatasystem 570.
Peace... Sridhar
Let me rephrase the "human readable file" to "free-flowing prose meant for human readers".
Sampsa
On 19 Oct 2009, at 18:32, Sampsa Laine wrote:
Guys, the reason I suggested a one line format was that I thought it would just sit at the end of a human readable file. We could have a second info file that is machine readable.
On 19 Oct 2009, at 16:58, Brian Hechinger wrote:
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 05:45:27PM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Such as (just as an example):
======
HOST: MIM
HARDWARE: E11 (PDP-11/74)
OS: RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6
LOCATION: UPPSALA, SWEDEN
MANAGER: Johnny Billquist
EMAIL: bqt at update.uu.se
EMAIL: MIM::BILLQUIST
======
Keep the format simple, and very relaxed. Let software figure out if
they can do anything with it or not.
Uppercase, lowercase, free flowing text. Just keep the tags standard to
start with. Maybe we can have some tags with a more formalized value, if
needed, such as a POS: value with LAT/LONG if people want to add that?
Hmm, that looks a LOT like an LDIF file. :)
-brian
--
"Coding in C is like sending a 3 year old to do groceries. You gotta
tell them exactly what you want or you'll end up with a cupboard full of
pop tarts and pancake mix." -- IRC User (http://www.bash.org/?841435)
Guys, the reason I suggested a one line format was that I thought it would just sit at the end of a human readable file. We could have a second info file that is machine readable.
On 19 Oct 2009, at 16:58, Brian Hechinger wrote:
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 05:45:27PM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Such as (just as an example):
======
HOST: MIM
HARDWARE: E11 (PDP-11/74)
OS: RSX-11M-PLUS V4.6
LOCATION: UPPSALA, SWEDEN
MANAGER: Johnny Billquist
EMAIL: bqt at update.uu.se
EMAIL: MIM::BILLQUIST
======
Keep the format simple, and very relaxed. Let software figure out if
they can do anything with it or not.
Uppercase, lowercase, free flowing text. Just keep the tags standard to
start with. Maybe we can have some tags with a more formalized value, if
needed, such as a POS: value with LAT/LONG if people want to add that?
Hmm, that looks a LOT like an LDIF file. :)
-brian
--
"Coding in C is like sending a 3 year old to do groceries. You gotta
tell them exactly what you want or you'll end up with a cupboard full of
pop tarts and pancake mix." -- IRC User (http://www.bash.org/?841435)
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 01:19:30PM -0400, John Wilson wrote:
OK I'll try to control myself now -- PDP-11 stuff probably isn't that
interesting to most HECnet people.
I'm all for it, I think most of us here are PDP-11 junkies. :-D
-brian
--
"Coding in C is like sending a 3 year old to do groceries. You gotta
tell them exactly what you want or you'll end up with a cupboard full of
pop tarts and pancake mix." -- IRC User (http://www.bash.org/?841435)
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 07:19:52PM +0200, Johnny Billquist wrote:
Any more 11/70 machines around?
I've got one. Dave McGuire has two.
-brian
--
"Coding in C is like sending a 3 year old to do groceries. You gotta
tell them exactly what you want or you'll end up with a cupboard full of
pop tarts and pancake mix." -- IRC User (http://www.bash.org/?841435)