On 05/18/2013 12:58 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: I've done a lot of database work, going back to Ingres and QUEL. I'm one of those weirdos who actually enjoys databases...I think most people find database work to be dry and boring, but I find it fascinating and stimulating. I've seen DTR applications used in production but have never had any exposure at all to the software...having something to actually *do* with it, like this node database for HECnet, is great stuff, and a great way to learn. I hope you've never used Microsoft Access. ;) No, I haven't. That requires Windows, and I've never used Windows. Sometimes I wish I had managed to avoid Windows like you did. ;) It's simple. Just don't use it. It's not like it's going to stroll into your life and install itself onto your computers. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA