On 2012-06-07 10:46, Dave McGuire wrote: On 06/07/2012 04:40 AM, Mark Benson wrote: Traffic. My main desktop machine sits on a busy network, and I am uncomfortable with the notion of it sitting in promiscuous mode. Remember that I also do all of my work (meaning "make money for food" work) on this system. Hence my proposal to use a dedicated low-cost platform to perform the work instead. I like you feel uncomfortable having my main computers wide open so I don't run it on my Mac Pro, MacBook or games PC. I have an old dual PIII for Windows stuff and a HP Microserver and (soon to be numerous) Raspberry Pi for Linux and a Atom D410 for NetBSD. Ahh, we are talking about different things. I'm using a Cisco 7206VXR as my DECnet router, but when I'm at my desk, I'm sitting in front of this computer right here, and I ssh/telnet/dnlogin/llogin from here. I'm talking about having direct DECnet support from here. Yeah, I'm also starting to wonder if we're talking about different things... Maybe someone can explain to me the worries they have with this "wide open" thing, and how that improves by having the bridge (or router) running on a separate machine? Of course I could just bring up a virtual machine on the VMware host down in the racks, but then I'd have to hop through that...not difficult at all, but still very "unclean" to me. Indeed. In addition to the fact that I'm not clear what security threat we're talking about here... It's just anal-retentive perfectionism, nothing more, no REAL impact, no REAL casualties...but it makes me sleep better at night, and I can usually achieve it pretty much everywhere else. :) No objections to that one. Except I don't loose sleep over a few CPU cycles here, since they are pretty much zero anyway. But like I said before, I don't mind clean stuff. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol