If you guys want to do direct incoming SMTP for some reason, I'm not sure I'll be able to help, I think my ISP blocks inbound SMTP. FWIW, I used to run an SMTP<->MAIL11 gateway on LEGATO, but I quit when I transferred to CODA. I have no objection to doing it again, but frankly no one used it much. I think that the HECnet machines that people actually used from day-to-day are already all connected directly to the Internet anyway and the MAIL11 gateway is superfluous. Bob