Hi all Now that I've got my mail issues squared away, I did want to note (ha) that if anyone wants to carry on off-topic stuff in a NOTES fashion, feel free to add MISER::HECNET_OFF to your notebook. A list->notes gateway I would need help with, although I would think a gateway would not be needed since the point is to move certain discussions off-list. Regardless, it's there if folks want to use it. MISER:: is up 24/7 barring hardware problems or if the power goes out and I'm not around to fire up the generator before the batteries give out. Cheers, Fred ---- Lets call it for what it is - "legacy" is a term that people use in a polite but derogatory manner to imply that the future direction they prefer is not that which they view as the current direction.