Hello! Well I've gone off into the deep end and last night (or early this morning) I downloaded a batch of items from the people behind the Charon-VAX thing. Right now I'm downloading an AXP image from Ian's site and I'll know in a few more minutes if it works. However what are the steps for securing a license from HP to run things? I'm more interested in trying to get VAX-VMS running rather then the Alpha one. So would one of you know where the Hobbyist VMS project is roosting these days? I'll also need to contact them for a license. Sampsa if this works and I do manage to bring it up is your offer to provide PPTP links between your arrangement and here still good? I'll then be ready obtain an area number. Does someone maintain a reasonably up to date list of areas indicating which ones are occupied and which ones are not? ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again."