<Paul_Koning at Dell.com> writes: That's not the scenario I'm talking about. No oddball scan codes; I could = perfectly easily define a keyboard lookup table for the keyboard in questio= n without having to go to any unnatural acts. The trouble is that I could never get that far. The OS would see the keybo= ard, ask me to press a shift key so it would know where that lives, and the= n it would get no further. Some of the people connected to this were Apple folks, and it was clear to = them that this was seen as a bug -- but the people who need to fix it never= got around to doing anything about it in spite of offers of help. Why should they? They sell their own Apple branded keyboards! ;) -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.