On Wed, 2 Oct 2013, Dave McGuire wrote: On 10/02/2013 03:03 PM, Clem Cole wrote: EDT is pure heaven. Dave this comment made me laugh. I'm an emacs guy; I live in emacs most every day. I remember the first time I tried the EDT emulation mode. It seemed so very right and yet so very wrong, at the same time. :-) Ahhh Emacs! A very extensible OS that has a good text editor now. ;) Shame it has to run second-level under another OS most of the time. ;) In the end its all about choice and what makes you comfortable. Of course. As long as it's emacs! B-) I'm jaded enough to realize that all the editors from those times are similar and all can do cool things when they ran on "glass ttys" - it's just what you learned and have burned into the ROMs in your fingers AND how well the editor is integrated into the native system. I learned IBM/TSS on a ASR 33 with a line editor, I bet it you tossed that too me now I would scream. If I had a 10 again, I wonder what I would use, as I know at this stage, I've forgotten teco. For VMS I think these days I would just use vi and be done with it. There is something to be said for an editor that just works. That said, the folks that wrote vim changed it just slightly from vi [they "fixed it" of course] and when I try editing on a my Mac or a Linux box it sometimes drives me nuts as I can not reprogram those fingers at my age. I'm right there with you. Emacs since v18. Good stuff. But my fingers still remember and adore EDT whenever I'm on a PDP-11 or a VAX. Or a PDP-10 once you get a MASSBUS drive and let me at your -10s -Dave -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Projects