It takes a steady hand to work on live wires so say the least. The "card" made me think you have pre-paid power and thus in the UK. Are there more countries that do it that way? From: Tony Blews <tonyblews at gmail.com> Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 16:42:56 +0000 To: <hecnet at update.uu.se> ReplyTo: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Tardis and sidrat Basically I live in a flat built on to the back of a house. We were sharing the electricity supply. Now its been changed so that we each have a sub-meter and get charged independently. The change didn't go well. The card meters take plastic cards that you load with credit at the local shops. Yes I live in the UK. On Sun, Sep 30, 2012 at 10:33 AM, <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote: What is a card meter ? (Are you located in GB?) From: Tony Blews <tonyblews at gmail.com> Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Sun, 30 Sep 2012 04:06:36 +0100 To: <hecnet at update.uu.se> ReplyTo: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] Tardis and sidrat Hi, My two machines (tardis and sidrat) are going to be down for a while due to a series of power problems knackering the PSU on the machine I use to run the bridge software. Basically, my inept landlord decided to rewire our card meter live and caused the power to cycle repeatedly for about 2 minutes. The PSU in the old dell box couldn't handle that abuse. As the Raspberries (which run the VAXen) were powered from that machine via usb, I'm now awaiting a crate of wall-warts to power them back up. I don't think it'll affect anyone, as I doubt anyone was using my simulated machines, but i'm just letting you know. Tony Blews