Most layered products are version independent as you say. LSE is part of DECset, like MMS and ?CMS. I have a recent version, if no kit is online I will power up my DS10 as ftp server. Hans Verzonden?vanaf?mijn?BlackBerry?10-smartphone. ? Origineel bericht ? Van: Fred Verzonden: woensdag 3 augustus 2016 19:31 Aan: hecnet at update.uu.se Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: [HECnet] Layered products for OpenVMS Afternoon all ... Is there a VMS layered product repository available on HECNET ? There was some discussion on c.o.v. about LSEDIT, and I'd to play around with that. I emailed the OpenVMS Customer Lab about getting FTP access to layered products as a hobbyist, but they say since OpenVMS 8.3 is EOL, they won't provide the link. I did not think layered products were version specific? I suppose I could upgrade my DS10 to a more recent version, but that seems like a lot just to play with a layered product. Fred --- $ WRITE SYS$OUTPUT F$MESSAGE (2928) %SYSTEM-W-FISH, my hovercraft is full of eels