I could probably do this with NetBSD as a front end to deal with spam and then Multinet as the actual gateway. I use PMAS for SPAM filtering my mail, but when I was doing it before I explicitly opted out all the DECnet mail from PMAS processing. The thing is, if you're going to start SPAM filtering for people's DECnet mail, then they need a way to get to their quarantined messages, configure their white/black lists, etc. That's not really a problem (PMAS has a web interface for just this purpose and I'm sure all the other SPAM filters do too) but then people need a browser and a TCP/IP interface to receive their DECnet mail. At some point it all becomes kind of silly. That's why I opted out the DECnet mail from SPAM filtering. Hopefully people don't publish their DECnet addresses on web pages or mailing lists. Like I said, the gateway was hardly ever used so SPAM never became a problem. How much of a load is Multinet on an Alpha (Jensen)? Not much, I would imagine. A Jensen is the slowest Alpha (or does that honor go to the Multia? Can't remember...) but still, Multinet runs just fine on a VAX - even the slowest Alpha ought to be blazingly fast in comparison :-) BTW, do you have any extra Jensen sheet metal parts? I've got a beautiful AXP2000 in the garage, but it's missing its side panel. Gets pretty dusty inside. Bob