On 2014-01-05 19:44, Sampsa Laine wrote: On 5 Jan 2014, at 20:40, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: On 2014-01-05 18:01, Sampsa Laine wrote: Yeah, thinking of going that route, even though Xterm does look like crap and isn't really well integrated into the rest of OS X. Looks like crap? Not sure I agree with that. It does not have a lot of eye candy and similar drivel. Instead it just looks like a terminal - which is what I think it should look like. Ok, that's a tad harsh, but let's say it doesn't visually integrate well with the rest of the UI. If I didn't care about this stuff I wouldn't be on an OS X box, but seriously, the xterm UI is abysmal (Want to change the font or say background colour? Oh, edit .Xresources - WTF?!?). It's an X application. Of course it don't really match up with the MAC window system, which is not X. Oh and there's so simple way of doing copy/cut/paste between it and other apps - I'll stick to Terminal.app / iTerm which (I just found out) support the keymappings out of the box too, probably because they used the same code base as xterm. There is a very easy way. X have a clipboard, and xterm (like any sane X program) use it. Very consistent, and very usable. Much better than all the sucky clipboards of OS X or Windows... But I guess it all depends on where you come from. I used X before any of the other crap even existed, so the way X do things are the natural way for me. What you need to figure out is how to set up your X application to integrate the X clipboard with the OS X window manager clipboard. I use Xquartz, and it does it just fine. I might have had to do some setting up of Xquartz initially. Don't remember anymore. Your problem is that you are too stuck in just one way of doing things. So I guess it makes more sense for you to use some OS X application. But I do know that all that I have tested (and that probably includes any you are trying to play with now) all are pretty buggy when it comes to actual functionality. They look pretty, but they are pigs, even if they have lipstick. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol