On 2012-07-08 23:21, Mark Benson wrote: On 8 Jul 2012, at 22:00, Dave McGuire wrote: Oh MAN! A manual beside you is REQUIRED! ;) I first did an 11M v4.1 SYSGEN when I was about 17. I was fortunate to have a friend at work who gave me lots of advice, but as he was at work and my 11/34 was at home, the "question/answer latency" was very high! It took me a few nights and a few tries to get it right, but in the end those scripts were very well-written and everything worked out fine. I've done a few RSX-11M+ 4.2 SYSGENs in the last year on SimH. I am pretty good at them now, I can almost roll one for my default PDP-11 setup (11/73 with dual RD54s), I can *almost* do it from memory. I found this invaluable though: http://9track.net/pdp11/rsx4_sysgen And for doing the accompanying DECnet NETGEN: http://9track.net/pdp11/decnet4_netgen Like Dave I had to redo it a few times over the first time to get it right but once you get it wright it's quite satisfying (even in an emulator). My big issue is *redoing* SYSGENs, I can't work out how to do a subsequent re-SYSGEN post-original-SYSGEN in 11M+ to change the a hardware config and compiled drivers etc. It doesn't seem to want to do an auto-config. Back to the endless reams of PDF files on my Kindle I suppose :D Believe me. An 11M SYSTEM is *nothing* like M+. Even knowledge and understanding of M+ SYSGEN is of basically no help if you ever try an 11M SYSGEN. Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol