On 2014-01-14 03:44, Sampsa Laine wrote: sampsa <sampsa at mac.com> mobile +44 7961 149465 On 14 Jan 2014, at 13:42, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote: Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> writes: Anybody know what happened with that discussion re: EISNER and HECnet? Also, is EISNER even up any more? I can't seem to connect to it. EISNER is being or has been physically relocated. Once it is back up, I'll see what can be done about getting it connected to HECnet. I have no idea what'll be available network-wise/router-wise until EISNER is back on-line. Mind you with such a large change anyway, it might be a good time to "sneak in" the connection to HECnet :) I totally dislike the "sneak in" comment. If it is going to happen, it must be done very openly and consciously. Noone will benefit from trying to sneak something in. Johnny