I've got two in my bag. They aren't big. They never get disconnected from the blue Cisco console cables either. Doesn't add much really. Not really sure what the issue with them really is. (Other than they always come up as a different COM port every time you plug them into windows which is pretty irritating.) -brian On Jan 18, 2013, at 20:45, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote: On 01/18/2013 08:36 PM, Brian Hechinger wrote: and that USB<->serial adapters don't work well (wrong) Try telling that to Cisco. Their new devices come with a USB port instead of a serial port for console. Wanna know what it is? It's a USB<->serial adapter built into the device. :) That was smart! It's not a matter of them not working well, though, I'd bet...it's more a matter of techs complaining about having to carry around something else. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA