On 2013-09-28 13:07, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote: Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> writes: I am playing around with iTerm as well at the moment though. What do you use as a terminal client on OS X? Pros and cons of the various terminal emulations can be debated ad nauseum and ad infinitum. I have iTerm and iTerm2, and Terminal.app on OS X. Both of the iTerm pass the preliminary VTTEST suites but they both fail miserably when asked to do the DECSWL and DECDHL tests. Terminal.app renders both DECSWL and DECDHL rather well. Neither of them will do DECELR and DECSLE. However, in their defense, none of the unix/linux default xterm appear to do them either. I've built xterm from source and there are switches which will enable these. I've not found the ideal combination yet of all of the build switches to make xterm do all of the things I can now accomplish with a real VT terminal or DECterminal. vttest is worse at testing than I thought if it don't pick up that Terminal.app do not even clear the screen when changing to 80 column mode (it should clear the screen, even if you are already in 80 column mode). Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol