I have a copy. I'll forward this to Al. BTW, I spoke too soon when I said they convert fine to PDF. About half do. The other half produce blank pages. The reason appears to be that Distiller can't cope with LaTeX output that uses bitmap fonts, which a number of those specs use. paul On Sep 9, 2013, at 3:15 PM, Jarratt RMA <robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com<mailto:robert.jarratt at ntlworld.com>> wrote: That is really interesting, I will download the lot when I get home at the end of the week. Have you got a copy in case it disappears before then? Have you sent a link to Al Kossow at bitsavers? Regards Rob On 9 September 2013 18:03, <Paul_Koning at dell.com<mailto:Paul_Koning at dell.com>> wrote: Gents, A kind former colleague sent me a copy of the Phase V Routing spec. The cover listed the order number for that document (which looked nothing like what I remembered). Google found a few hits for that string. One of the hits is an FTP server: ftp://avaloni.iks-jena.de/mitarb/lutz/standards/DEC/ -- which appears to have the whole set, in PostScript form. Adobe Acrobat Distiller readily converts those to PDF. paul