On 10/30/2012 12:37 AM, Cory Smelosky wrote: I got pakgen.c if you want it - I think you just need to figure out what the product name is and you're good Happen to know the product name for Ultrix itself on a MicroVAX? ;) and would you have a copy of some install media? I don't think I installed the DECnet bits. Ultrix itself, if you're talking about a PAK for it, this doesn't really apply, as far as I can recall. There's a file called "upgrade" that lives in the root directory (!) that controls how many concurrent logins are allowed on a given system. It's encrypted somehow. I never dug into it because, well, I had some of the files. I could swear that I had archived 1-user, 2-user, and 16-user (I think) user "upgrade" files many years ago, but a quick look through the places where I'd normally keep such things hasn't turned them up. I likely have them somewhere. (I sure hope I do..) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA