On 3/31/08, Brett Bump <bbump at rsts.org> wrote: [snip] Also noticed when it came up all the licenses had expired. What do I need to do to get the hobby licenses from HP when I get 8.3 running? Thanks. Brett You can get hobby licences for the Alpha the same way you do for the VAX, http://www.openvmshobbyist.com/licenses.php You'll need some sort of DECUS/Encompass membership, but basic Encompass membership is free so that's not a problem. John -- Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn