21 Feb
2021
21 Feb
'21
6:36 p.m.
Hello everyone,
I am trying to get DECnet working on a simulated VAX 780 (with simh) with a
3.x version of VMS. This is largely for nostalgic reasons.
I have the version of VMS 3.0 from John Dundas that Supratim posted nearly
a year ago. I have also built a VMS 3.0 system by installing VMS from the
VMS 3.0 distribution tape. Both of those systems seem to work well.
However I am failing to find a way of getting DECnet working. I have a
DECnet end node key (and a routing key, come to that) from
http://iamvirtual.ca/VAX11/VAX-11-software.html but that says that it only
works for VMS 3.4 or later. I did try it on 3.0 anyway, but it did not get
DECnet to work. It complains about needing a license.
Can anyone help me either upgrade my VMS 3.0 system to VMS 3.4 or higher
(or just install the higher version from scratch), or help me find a DECnet
key that works with VMS 3.0.
Cheers
Peter Allan
21 Feb
21 Feb
7:43 p.m.
On 2/21/21 12:36 PM, Peter Allan wrote:
I am trying to get DECnet working on a simulated VAX
780 (with simh)
with a 3.x version of VMS. This is largely for nostalgic?reasons.
I have the version of VMS 3.0 from John Dundas that Supratim posted
nearly a year ago. I have also built a VMS 3.0 system by installing VMS
from the VMS 3.0 distribution tape. Both of those systems seem to
work?well.
However I am failing to find a way of getting DECnet working. I have a
DECnet end node key (and a routing key, come to that) from
http://iamvirtual.ca/VAX11/VAX-11-software.html but that says that it
only works for VMS 3.4 or later. I did try it on 3.0 anyway, but it did
not get DECnet to work. It complains?about needing a license.
Can anyone help me either upgrade my VMS 3.0 system to VMS 3.4 or higher
(or just install the higher version from scratch), or help me find a
DECnet key that works with VMS 3.0.
LMF didn't appear in VMS until v5.0. Is there some other licensing
scheme for pre-VMS-5 DECnet that I'm unaware of? I certainly don't
remember any. Lacking that, are you certain the DECnet package you're
trying to get running is compatible with VMS 3.0?
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
8:39 p.m.
Hi Dave,
You are quite correct that LMF did not appear until VMS version 5. Prior to
that you needed to install what was called a DECnet key to let you use
DECnet on VMS. I do recall having to do this back when I managed a
VAX-11/780 that ran VMS 3.x,and later VMS 4.x. Installing the so-called key
actually patches the file NETACP.EXE.
My reference to a license was because that is actually what the system
complains about the lack of when I try to start DECnet. Clearly this is not
an LMF license.
Cheers
Peter
On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 at 18:43, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 2/21/21 12:36 PM, Peter Allan wrote:
I am trying to get DECnet working on a simulated
VAX 780 (with simh)
with a 3.x version of VMS. This is largely for nostalgic reasons.
I have the version of VMS 3.0 from John Dundas that Supratim posted
nearly a year ago. I have also built a VMS 3.0 system by installing VMS
from the VMS 3.0 distribution tape. Both of those systems seem to
work well.
However I am failing to find a way of getting DECnet working. I have a
DECnet end node key (and a routing key, come to that) from
http://iamvirtual.ca/VAX11/VAX-11-software.html but that says that it
only works for VMS 3.4 or later. I did try it on 3.0 anyway, but it did
not get DECnet to work. It complains about needing a license.
Can anyone help me either upgrade my VMS 3.0 system to VMS 3.4 or higher
(or just install the higher version from scratch), or help me find a
DECnet key that works with VMS 3.0.
LMF didn't appear in VMS until v5.0. Is there some other licensing
scheme for pre-VMS-5 DECnet that I'm unaware of? I certainly don't
remember any. Lacking that, are you certain the DECnet package you're
trying to get running is compatible with VMS 3.0?
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
9:11 p.m.
Ahhhh ok, I was unaware of that! I was a VMS sysadmin for many years
running 4.7 and 5.x systems, but our (US Gov't related) systems were not
allowed to be networked, so I never had any experience with that.
So it actually patches netacp.exe?! Wow that's nuts!
-Dave
On 2/21/21 2:39 PM, Peter Allan wrote:
You are quite correct that LMF did not appear until
VMS version 5. Prior
to that you needed to install what was called a DECnet key to let you
use DECnet on VMS. I do recall having to do this back when I managed a
VAX-11/780 that ran VMS 3.x,and later VMS 4.x. Installing the so-called
key actually patches the file NETACP.EXE.
My reference to a license was because?that is actually what the system
complains about the lack of when I try to start DECnet. Clearly this is
not an LMF license.
Cheers
Peter
On Sun, 21 Feb 2021 at 18:43, Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com
<mailto:mcguire at neurotica.com>> wrote:
On 2/21/21 12:36 PM, Peter Allan wrote:
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
I am trying to get DECnet working on a simulated
VAX 780 (with simh)
with a 3.x version of VMS. This is largely for nostalgic?reasons.
I have the version of VMS 3.0 from John Dundas that Supratim posted
nearly a year ago. I have also built a VMS 3.0 system by
installing VMS
from the VMS 3.0 distribution tape. Both of those
systems seem to
work?well.
However I am failing to find a way of getting DECnet working. I
have a
DECnet end node key (and a routing key, come to
that) from
http://iamvirtual.ca/VAX11/VAX-11-software.html but that says
that it
only works for VMS 3.4 or later. I did try it on
3.0 anyway, but
it did
not get DECnet to work. It complains?about
needing a license.
Can anyone help me either upgrade my VMS 3.0 system to VMS 3.4 or
higher
(or just install the higher version from
scratch), or help me find a
DECnet key that works with VMS 3.0.
? ?LMF didn't appear in VMS until v5.0.? Is there some other licensing
scheme for pre-VMS-5 DECnet that I'm unaware of?? I certainly don't
remember any.? Lacking that, are you certain the DECnet package you're
trying to get running is compatible with VMS 3.0?
? ? ? ? ? ?-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
23 Feb
23 Feb
5:32 a.m.
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