We could also set up a little UUCP and NNTP on UNIX VMs network ;) ... I still like the idea of UUCP / POTS links. ... I would attempt this if I had modems that weren't just soft modems. Might be able to use them if any of you know of any nice software for use on a BSD with them. You guys do know that there exists UUCP, et al, for VMS? No need to use Unix. Or maybe I missed the original point? Bob