On 2013-09-28 11:51, Sampsa Laine wrote: Are you saying that Terminal.app (a program I avoid by the way, since the VT100 emulation is buggy) do not pass all values? How are you using it, by the way? Selected some arabic language on your MAC, running the terminal, typing in there, and in the terminal you have telnetted to some VMS box. Yes, essentially, Terminal.app will not accept Arabic letter input but displays Arabic text (incorrectly, without ligatures). I've tried this both locally, over SSH and Telnet. Again, I don't think this is a VMS issue. In this case, I think it is not. But I think you can pretty much expect there to be situations where it will break for you because VMS do not really work correctly with UTF-8. Your best chance, if you really want to do UTF-8 would be to write your own program to output the file. The same might also be true for input. As for why I like Terminal.app? I dunno, got used to it I guess in the last 8 years, not really come across too many bugs that bothered me.. I am playing around with iTerm as well at the moment though. Tried it. It also have bugs. What do you use as a terminal client on OS X? xterm Johnny -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol