On 8 Jan 2015, at 12:17, John H. Reinhardt <johnhreinhardt at yahoo.com> wrote: On 1/7/2015 9:23 PM, Sampsa Laine wrote: On 8 Jan 2015, at 04:03, Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> wrote: Aha. Interesting output. That was sortof what I had a vague memory remembering it looking like. Now I need to decide if I want to do it similar. Do people think file protection (for example) is useful to see? What about owner? I certainly have the information available, but I have not displayed it so far. I would try to make it look as close to the *nix implementations, that way automated / GUI front-ends are more likely to work nicely with the server. For example, I have a very nice GUI file transfer program called Transmit.app on OS X, but it REALLY gets confused when talking to VMS.. sampsa I had the same problem with my Mac FTP utilities. I tried Panic's Transmit, Yummy FTP and a couple others. Yummy *almost* works except for file versions. But I've been using Filezilla <https://filezilla-project.org/> now for a few months and it seems to work pretty well. My biggest problem with it has been training it to recognize file types for automatic transfers (ASCII vs binary/image). It has Mac, Windows and Linux versions. I have V3.8.1 The latest is 3.10 but it won't work on my OS X 10.6.8 (Snow Leopard) system. John H. Reinhardt I pretty much gave up on this and now just use Kermit to move files back and forth when needed, I have a set of scripts that automatically log me in to all my systems with Kermit invoking the telnet or ssh connection - this way I can transfer a file at any given moment. Performance isn't that bad an issue, if I need to move gigabytes of stuff around (hasn't happened yet) I'd probably use SFTP (on my Alphas) or try to get FTP working on my VAXen.. sampsa