That would be expected when you haven't defined any nodenames for nodes in area 42. As a reminder to everyone. DECnet phase IV don't have any centralized nodename database. Every machine has his own nodename database. And you need to update it occasionally if you want to have any new nodes appear in there. Otherwise you might just see node numbers, without any node names associated with them. And such nodes are not "known". :-) Johnny Sampsa Laine wrote: Well GORVAX can see area 42 but no nodes in it.. CHIMPY$ ncp tell gorvax show known areas Known Area Volatile Summary as of 3-DEC-2009 19:57:20 Area State Circuit Next node to area 1 reachable 1.400 (GORVAX) 2 reachable TCP-0-0 2.17 (CHARON) 3 reachable TCP-0-0 2.17 (CHARON) 11 reachable QNA-0 11.2 (MAISA) 19 reachable QNA-0 19.11 (AGENA) 42 reachable QNA-0 42.1 51 reachable TCP-0-0 2.17 (CHARON) 59 reachable TCP-0-0 2.17 (CHARON) 60 reachable QNA-0 60.664 (PDXVAX) On 3 Dec 2009, at 18:53, Ian McLaughlin wrote: On 2009-12-03, at 10:49 AM, gerry77 at mail.com <mailto:gerry77 at mail.com> wrote: At the moment I cannot remember if @SYS$MANAGER:NETCONFIG.COM asks something about configuring a node as an area router, but I'm assuming that it doesn't ask anything, or you wouldn't be here asking for help. :-) As a starting point you may just type the following: $ RUN SYS$SYSTEM:NCP NCP> SET EXECUTOR STATE SHUT NCP> DEFINE EXECUTOR TYPE AREA NCP> EXIT $ @SYS$MANAGER:STARTNET If I'm not wrong, this should be enough to transform your node into an area router; then you may want to revise your configuration to tune it better. You are correct - NETCONFIG doesn't ask about level 1 or 2 - just whether you're a router or not. Your commands (which I'm sure I tried some time during the last 24 hours, but I'm not sure) followed by a reboot seems to have fixed it. Thanks! SHOW KNOWN AREAS is showing 9 areas, which is good. SHOW KNOWN NODES isn't showing any new nodes though. And a TELL 1.400 SHOW KNOWN NODES isn't showing my nodes yet. (I'm area 42 if you start seeing it in the node list). At least there's some connectivity. I'll keep working. Thanks for the help. Ian. -- Johnny Billquist || "I'm on a bus || on a psychedelic trip email: bqt at softjar.se || Reading murder books pdp is alive! || tryin' to stay hip" - B. Idol