Fun story: A number of years ago I had a russian guy who asked for a guest account on Magica (MIMs predecessor, a real PDP-11/70, which is still around). A day or so later, the system had crashed, and I had received an email with an apology from the russian guy for crashing the system. It turned out that he and some friends had a russian cloned RSX system from some old age, which they had done plenty of hacking and working on, and in the process had found some potential exploits. Curious as they were, they decided to check if those exploits were still around in the latest version of RSX, which they had not touched before. Since I had protected all the directories and source files from random access, they couldn't check the source code, but they could write programs, so they did. And yes, the possible exploits and holes were still around, and thus Magica crashed. This was in V4.5, if I remember right. I thanked them for the information, rebooted the system and sent what they told be on towards Mentec. The russian promised to not do that again, and I just thought it was fun. V4.6 fixed one or two of the problems, but a couple of them are still around. So, once it a while, you actually do find someone who knows what they are doing, but such people are normally not evil. I'm still looking for script kiddies trying to hack MIM. Once in a while I do get people who try to login repeatedly as root, falken, and other known Unix accounts. Poor kids... ;-) Johnny On 2011-12-29 14.17, Brian Hechinger wrote: Or Solaris, or *BSD, or..... If they can't run a script on linux or windows they can't hack in. Yes, I have a very poor view of crackers these days. :-D -brian On 12/29/2011 4:24 AM, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote: MIM uses guest/guest and a script that asks for your name. Not secure but then again what's there to steal? And I doubt whether hackers know their way in any DEC OS ... -----Original Message----- From: "Steve Davidson"<jeep at scshome.net> Sender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2011 22:42:17 To:<hecnet at Update.UU.SE> Reply-To: hecnet at Update.UU.SESubject: RE: [HECnet] Circuit costs - Area 19 revised I do not create any accounts unless asked by the node owner... Only some machines have guest accounts and as far as I know we have no standard. This site does not have guest accounts. I do create accounts on request for some of the machines. Mostly PLUTO::, because it is the only RSTS/E system on HECnet, but it is not up all of the time. With the exception of PLUTO:: none of my machines offer anything that HECnet users don't already have. -Steve -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Brian Hechinger Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2011 10:09 PM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: Re: [HECnet] Circuit costs - Area 19 revised Ah, no guest accounts have been setup unless Steve did it so I'm assuming he hasn't. I'll create some guest accounts tomorrow. What's the standard HECnet guest? -brian On Dec 28, 2011, at 19:43, hvlems at zonnet.nl wrote: Hi Brian, It may have been an example of the NML issue discussed here a couple of days ago. Anyway set host rifter worked fine. I tried guest/guest and hecnet/guiest but that didn't work. Well, I quit for the day, it's late out here. Hans ------Origineel bericht------ Van: Brian Hechinger Afzender: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE Aan: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] Circuit costs - Area 19 revised Verzonden: 29 december 2011 01:07 On 12/28/2011 6:44 PM, H Vlems wrote: Brian, is RIFTER a phase V node? NCP set exec node RIFTER doesn't work, even when I jump to SG1 first. No, it's a Phase IV node. -brian