This just came in from a friend of mine: "Ric Lewis at HP sent out a letter basically saying VMS is dead. Support up through 2020, but 2016 is the last sale of VMS- supported hardware." Now, of course, "will only be sold for 2.5 more years and will only be supported for 6.5" doesn't exactly say "dead" to me; it says "WILL EVENTUALLY BE dead", but still, this does kinda suck. But it's awesome that it lasted this long. From 1978 until 2020 is a great run in this industry. And I'll be running it, God willing, well after that. (if I'm still breathing!) I do hope those who have sources (or at least, source listings) will be able to preserve them. (hint hint) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA