I can successfully connect from a VAX (4000-700a) running VMS v7.3 to the PDP-11/53 (again, running RSTS/E v10.1) via: $ set host/appl=rterm 61.4 Terminal control is a bit wonky, but it works. This is what crashes from the Alpha running VMS v8.3. -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA