In the end I found that regardless of whether I use /IMAGE and save/restore from an intermediary saveset or I do a direct copy the directory modification times are always new but the file modification times are set correctly. This makes an exact reproduction easier as if I do want to have the original directory times too then a script to patch these will be simpler. Regards, mark http://www.wickensonline.co.uk http://declegacy.org.uk http://retrochallenge.net https://twitter.com/#!/%40urbancamo On 22 May 2013, at 18:04, "Cory Smelosky" <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Wed, 22 May 2013, Gregg Levine wrote: On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 12:20 PM, h vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl> wrote: Gregg, go fight some yetis, you hit it on the nail :-) Van: Gregg Levine Verzonden: woensdag 22 mei 2013 16:26 PM Aan: hecnet at update.uu.se Beantwoorden: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Onderwerp: Re: [HECnet] OpenVMS Backup On Wed, May 22, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- <system at tmesis.com> wrote: h vlems <hvlems at zonnet.nl> writes: {HTML elided} Could you not post HTML??? -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity. Hello! (And I perhaps understand the ways of machines with the wisdom of one of my favorite characters.) I can't speak for why the VMS system is behaving strangely concerning the backup functions of its CDs, but I can for how one of us is posting. Some of us use our portable devices for participation on these lists. They in turn have default setting which can not be changed. That setting sadly is HTML. (Or something close enough.) ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." Hello! Hmm okay. My concept hit it on the head. And the only yetis I know are busy besieging Dave's place. And causing massive mayhem all over Cory. But yes you're right. That'd explain the scratching at the roof... ----- Gregg C Levine gregg.drwho8 at gmail.com "This signature fought the Time Wars, time and again." -- Cory Smelosky http://gewt.net/ Personal stuff http://gimme-sympathy.org Experiments