On 10/28/2012 07:20 PM, Cory Smelosky wrote: Re-run your installl and select 'A', to build a monitor at installation time. Then you should see more stuff when you do "dir sysgen$:". (and more importantly "run sysgen$:sysgen" ;)) That is really. really weird. I can't see the reasoning behind not installing the utils if you use a prebuilt monitor. I think it's done with "turnkey" systems in mind. Ah, that could explain it. Still seems a bit weird to me though. Yep, me too. So...get to it! ;) -Dave -- Dave McGuire, AK4HZ New Kensington, PA