6 Sep
2020
6 Sep
'20
2:27 p.m.
Peter Lothberg <roll at stupi.com> writes:
Yes, it says DEC on some on Compac on some. The DS20
diagnostics and
microcode update CD works on it.
What does it say in the SRM?
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7 Sep
7 Sep
4:19 a.m.
On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 8:27 PM Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- <
system at tmesis.com> wrote:
Peter Lothberg <roll at stupi.com> writes:
Obviously I'm not the one with the system, but I do recall that there was a
DS20L that was built for use by telcos. I'm pretty sure it only ran Tru64
5.0 and higher.
After a quick "Google", this seems to confirm it:
https://h20195.www2.hpe.com/v2/gethtml.aspx?docname=c04282845
It also seems to indicate that Linux and Tru64 are the only available
options.
Regards, TIm.
Yes, it says DEC on some on Compac on some. The
DS20 diagnostics and
microcode update CD works on it.
What does it say in the SRM?
4:22 a.m.
Yepp, this is how it looks...
[
https://h20195.www2.hpe.com/v2/gethtml.aspx?docname=c04282845 |
https://h20195.www2.hpe.com/v2/gethtml.aspx?docname=c04282845 ]
Any hack to run VMS on it?
-P
From: "Tim Sneddon" <tim at sneddon.id.au>
To: "hecnet" <hecnet at update.uu.se>
Sent: Sunday, September 6, 2020 10:19:43 PM
Subject: Re: [HECnet] RE: integrity and alpha hardware
On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 8:27 PM Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- < [ mailto:system at
tmesis.com | system at tmesis.com ] > wrote:
Peter Lothberg < [ mailto:roll at stupi.com | roll at stupi.com ] > writes:
Yes, it says DEC on some on Compac on some. The DS20
diagnostics and
microcode update CD works on it.
What does it say in the SRM?
Obviously I'm not the one with the system, but I do recall that there was a DS20L that
was built for use by telcos. I'm pretty sure it only ran Tru64 5.0 and higher.
After a quick "Google", this seems to confirm it:
[ https://h20195.www2.hpe.com/v2/gethtml.aspx?docname=c04282845 |
https://h20195.www2.hpe.com/v2/gethtml.aspx?docname=c04282845 ]
It also seems to indicate that Linux and Tru64 are the only available options.
Regards, TIm.
4:38 a.m.
On 9/6/20 10:22 PM, Peter Lothberg wrote:
Yepp, this is how it looks...
Any hack to run VMS on it?
All you need is to run the correct PALcode, right? How tough would
that be? I know some of the low-end systems had insufficient flash
space for other-than-NT PALcode, but I doubt that's an issue with a
higher-end system like this.
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
4:58 a.m.
On 9/6/2020 9:38 PM, Dave McGuire wrote:
On 9/6/20 10:22 PM, Peter Lothberg wrote:
This all was discussed years ago on C.O.V.? Check out the following threads:
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.vms/c/uiT3beMMLS8/m/UH0B7NP00PgJ> "Press
Release DS20L" May 29, 2002
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.vms/c/n9ADEquu9No/m/vueMt710SQ8J>
"AlphaServer DS20L with OpenVMS?" June 8, 2002
<https://groups.google.com/g/comp.os.vms/c/_PBnvCzUmT0/m/ABj_EFHDrbcJ> "VMS for
DS20l/SC20" May 16, 2005
For those who don't want to deal with Google Groups, the gist of it is that the DS20L
is a rebadging of the API Networks CS20 dual Alpha system.? API used a different chipset
for the glue than DEC/Compaq used for the DS10 so the basic HAL interface layer won't
work. There was also a SCSI chip that VMS didn't have drivers for (maybe it doe now?)?
In short, no go for OpenVMS.? You can get an old Linux or Tru64.? I don't know if
NetBSD would work or not.
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John H. Reinhardt
Yepp, this is how it looks...
?>https://h20195.www2.hpe.com/v2/gethtml.aspx?docname=c04282845
Any hack to run VMS on it?
? All you need is to run the correct PALcode, right?? How tough would that be?? I know
some of the low-end systems had insufficient flash space for other-than-NT PALcode, but I
doubt that's an issue with a higher-end system like this.
???????????? -Dave
6:05 a.m.
On Mon, Sep 7, 2020 at 10:39 AM Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> wrote:
On 9/6/20 10:22 PM, Peter Lothberg wrote:
That's just a tiny bit of an over-simplification. :-)
Regards, Tim.
Yepp, this is how it looks...
Any hack to run VMS on it?
All you need is to run the correct PALcode, right? How tough would
that be? I know some of the low-end systems had insufficient flash
space for other-than-NT PALcode, but I doubt that's an issue with a
higher-end system like this.
6:43 a.m.
On 9/7/20 12:05 AM, Tim Sneddon wrote:
Apparently. I had assumed it was a DEC/Compaq design, which would've
made it much more likely that they'd have used reasonable chipsets and such.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Yepp, this is
how it looks...
? >https://h20195.www2.hpe.com/v2/gethtml.aspx?docname=c04282845
Any hack to run VMS on it?
? ?All you need is to run the correct PALcode, right?? How tough would
that be?? I know some of the low-end systems had insufficient flash
space for other-than-NT PALcode, but I doubt that's an issue with a
higher-end system like this.
That's just a tiny bit of an over-simplification. :-) 
5:38 p.m.
Yep - that's an API CS20 in different clothes. I'm still looking for one...
Tru64 is a fantastic OS.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE <owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE> On Behalf Of Dave
McGuire
Sent: Monday, September 7, 2020 12:43 AM
To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE
Subject: Re: [HECnet] RE: integrity and alpha hardware
On 9/7/20 12:05 AM, Tim Sneddon wrote:
Apparently. I had assumed it was a DEC/Compaq design, which would've made it much
more likely that they'd have used reasonable chipsets and such.
-Dave
--
Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA
Yepp, this is
how it looks...
? >https://h20195.www2.hpe.com/v2/gethtml.aspx?docname=c04282845
Any hack to run VMS on it?
? ?All you need is to run the correct PALcode, right?? How tough would
that be?? I know some of the low-end systems had insufficient flash
space for other-than-NT PALcode, but I doubt that's an issue with a
higher-end system like this.
That's just a tiny bit of an over-simplification. :-)
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