[..snip!..] Besides, anyone who thinks I know how to use VMS is a moron, Im a total VMS noob. I know properly 10x about Linux what I do about VMS. That said there are plenty areas I've never had to deal with and mounting without root privileges is seemingly one of them. Thing is it 'just works' in RSX and VMS it 'just don't work' in Linux, at least at a prompt using the conventional tools. [..snip!..] Mark: If your that much of a noob.. I have a "Tips" file/page that's a little less daunting than the VMS-FAQ I used to hand out to people at my uni computer club when they joined the VMS sig or had no idea. I still update it from time to time. http://deviate.fi/~uridium/VMS-TIPS.TXT Maybe a few nuggets in there. Al.