Wow, that's odd. I have no idea why that'd be happening. In this case thay think the own you and you get the cnnectivity that they decide you should have, with the performance they decide.... (as they are only a local US network with a captive audience...) Excellent, thank you! I have routes for area 59 via Reston. Cool.. set host sol:: $in decnet $in arpanet -Peter