El 25/09/2013, a les 2:29, Sampsa Laine <sampsa at mac.com> va escriure: On 25 Sep 2013, at 02:25, Cory Smelosky <b4 at gewt.net> wrote: On Wed, 25 Sep 2013, Sampsa Laine wrote: Since it seems the general public are having a hard time keeping such resources available, and it would seem that there are some here who are pretty good at it (or so I'd like to believe), maybe getting more users and usage could be a cool thing. But it might be a negative thing as well, so I'm not going to pursue this anymore right now. Johnny I'm always happy to take more users onto CHIMPY and the HILANT clusters - you think I should let people in comp.os.vms know about these? Does anybody mind 'outsiders' getting access to HECnet? It depends on the "outsider". If it's the cool dudes that want to learn, more power to 'em. I'll offer up resources. But if it's the malicious ones...bleh. This is what I'm concerned about, I don't want a full-scale migration of hackers and black hats from Deathrow suddenly on my systems or on HECnet. We run a pretty open shop since there's a level of trust between the participants... This. I have implemented just basic security at my network and to be honest I feel extremely lazy at the thought of hardening it. Of course I am more worried about the non-DEC stuff which could be 'pwned' using a VMS or Ultrix system as a beachhead. Is it posible to deny an user access to the IP stack (either UCX or multinet)? If so, I would setup my guest accounts to 'decnet only' access. sampsa