8 Apr
2023
8 Apr
'23
5:21 p.m.
There is now an OpenVMS/x86 system on HECnet, as I would expect/hope, DECnet Phase IV
seems to be working just fine. It’s routing through my VAX/VMS 5.5-2 system.
Zane
8 Apr
8 Apr
6:46 p.m.
Excellent! Out of interest, what is OpenVMS running on? Is it raw hardware
or virtualized?
Peter Allan
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 at 16:21, Zane Healy <healyzh(a)avanthar.com> wrote:
There is now an OpenVMS/x86 system on HECnet, as I
would expect/hope,
DECnet Phase IV seems to be working just fine. It’s routing through my
VAX/VMS 5.5-2 system.
Zane
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6:51 p.m.
Aldur3 (27.6) has been on HECnet since E9.2. It has run both bare metal and virtualized.
It is currently a virtual guest of ESXi running on a DL380 G9.
Mark Berryman
On Apr 8, 2023, at 10:46 AM, Peter Allan
<petermallan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Excellent! Out of interest, what is OpenVMS running on? Is it raw hardware or
virtualized?
Peter Allan
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 at 16:21, Zane Healy <healyzh(a)avanthar.com
<mailto:healyzh@avanthar.com>> wrote:
There is now an OpenVMS/x86 system on HECnet, as
I would expect/hope, DECnet Phase IV seems to be working just fine. It’s routing through
my VAX/VMS 5.5-2 system.
Zane
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9 Apr
9 Apr
12:50 a.m.
It’s on my VMware cluster (ESXI 6.7). The system itself is an HP ProDesk 600 G1, with an
Intel Core i5-4590 CPU, and 16GB RAM. I’d have preferred to land the system on my DL380,
but it’s a G7, and lacked some of the required CPU features. The hard parts were ensuring
the VM had the correct HW configuration, and figuring out how to add a serial line, as
vSphere wouldn’t let me do that. I finally had to log into the ESXI host that it’s
running on to add the serial line.
Zane
On Apr 8, 2023, at 9:46 AM, Peter Allan
<petermallan(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Excellent! Out of interest, what is OpenVMS running on? Is it raw hardware or
virtualized?
Peter Allan
On Sat, 8 Apr 2023 at 16:21, Zane Healy <healyzh(a)avanthar.com
<mailto:healyzh@avanthar.com>> wrote:
There is now an OpenVMS/x86 system on HECnet, as
I would expect/hope, DECnet Phase IV seems to be working just fine. It’s routing through
my VAX/VMS 5.5-2 system.
Zane
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8 Apr
8 Apr
9:04 p.m.
On 4/8/23 11:21, Zane Healy wrote:
There is now an OpenVMS/x86 system on HECnet, as I
would expect/hope, DECnet Phase IV seems to be working just fine. It’s routing through my
VAX/VMS 5.5-2 system.
I sure would like to give that a try. Maybe someone will anonymously
send me some info, which of course I would keep very quiet.
-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
10:45 p.m.
I enrolled in CLP a few years ago but I am still waiting for x86 community license to try.
I got Alpha license paks annually.
When I get license paks, I will upgrade it into VM native host on my SBC board. Does it
support AMD processors? If not, I will set up VM on Windows 11 or Ubuntu on my
Intel-based PC.
Tim
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From: Dave McGuire <mcguire(a)neurotica.com>
Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2023 3:04 PM
To: hecnet(a)lists.dfupdate.se
Subject: [HECnet] Re: OpenVMS E9.2-1/x86
On 4/8/23 11:21, Zane Healy wrote:
There is now an OpenVMS/x86 system on HECnet, as I
would expect/hope, DECnet Phase IV seems to be working just fine. It’s routing through my
VAX/VMS 5.5-2 system.
I sure would like to give that a try. Maybe someone will anonymously send me some
info, which of course I would keep very quiet.
-Dave
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9 Apr
9 Apr
6:26 a.m.
On 4/8/2023 3:45 PM, fsword007(a)gmail.com wrote:
I enrolled in CLP a few years ago but I am still
waiting for x86 community license to try. I got Alpha license paks annually.
When I get license paks, I will upgrade it into VM native host on my SBC board. Does it
support AMD processors? If not, I will set up VM on Windows 11 or Ubuntu on my
Intel-based PC.
Tim
No AMD yet. They say it's coming in a later release, but no details.
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Sent: Saturday, April 8, 2023 3:04 PM
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Subject: [HECnet] Re: OpenVMS E9.2-1/x86
On 4/8/23 11:21, Zane Healy wrote:
> There is now an OpenVMS/x86 system on HECnet, as I would expect/hope, DECnet Phase IV
seems to be working just fine. It’s routing through my VAX/VMS 5.5-2 system.
Darn
you Zane! I was hoping to have the first x86 on HECnet. :D I just got mine running
yesterday. But I guess Mr. Berryman beat us both.
Mine is running on an Intel NUC9 i9 with 64GB memory running VMWare ESXi V7.0u3. The
OpenVMS guest is a 2-CPU 12GB VM with a 24GB main disk and a 16GB secondary. OpenVMS used
up 15GB of disk leaving 10GB free.
The NUC has plenty of resources so at some point I want to set up a 2-3 node VMSCluster on
it.
I sure would like to give that a try. Maybe
someone will anonymously send me some info, which of course I would keep very quiet.
-Dave
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10:21 a.m.
I got randomly enrolled to the field test, you might wanna take a look at the customer
portal :)
Jeroen
Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone
Op 8 apr. 2023 om 22:45 heeft fsword007(a)gmail.com het
volgende geschreven:
I enrolled in CLP a few years ago but I am still waiting for x86 community license to
try. I got Alpha license paks annually.
When I get license paks, I will upgrade it into VM native host on my SBC board. Does it
support AMD processors? If not, I will set up VM on Windows 11 or Ubuntu on my
Intel-based PC.
Tim
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Subject: [HECnet] Re: OpenVMS E9.2-1/x86
On 4/8/23 11:21, Zane Healy wrote:
There is now an OpenVMS/x86 system on HECnet, as I would expect/hope, DECnet Phase IV
seems to be working just fine. It’s routing through my VAX/VMS 5.5-2 system.
I sure would like to give that a try. Maybe someone will anonymously send me some
info, which of course I would keep very quiet.
-Dave
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New Kensington, PA
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10:40 a.m.
I too 'snuck' a x86 VMS system on HECnet. It's running under linux and qemu on
a box cobbled together from bits. I'll be moving it to somewhere less ad hoc shortly
and I'll probably try a SCSI-based cluster of two though I'm not sure how qemu
does shared discs.
Keith
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From: Zane Healy [mailto:healyzh@avanthar.com]
Sent: 08 April 2023 16:21
To: The Hobbyist DECnet mailing list <hecnet(a)lists.dfupdate.se>
Subject: [HECnet] OpenVMS E9.2-1/x86
There is now an OpenVMS/x86 system on HECnet, as I would expect/hope, DECnet Phase IV
seems to be working just fine. It’s routing through my VAX/VMS 5.5-2 system.
Zane
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10 Apr
7:20 p.m.
I've got a Dl360 gen8 I'd love to run this on but it only seems to support
gen9 and gen10. It requires a system with UEFI and gen8's have a BIOS. I
wonder if you could get around that with something like DUET...
On Sunday, April 9, 2023, Keith Halewood <Keith.Halewood(a)pitbulluk.org>
wrote:
I too 'snuck' a x86 VMS system on HECnet.
It's running under linux and
qemu on a box cobbled together from bits. I'll be moving it to somewhere
less ad hoc shortly and I'll probably try a SCSI-based cluster of two
though I'm not sure how qemu does shared discs.
Keith
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From: Zane Healy [mailto:healyzh@avanthar.com]
Sent: 08 April 2023 16:21
To: The Hobbyist DECnet mailing list <hecnet(a)lists.dfupdate.se>
Subject: [HECnet] OpenVMS E9.2-1/x86
There is now an OpenVMS/x86 system on HECnet, as I would expect/hope,
DECnet Phase IV seems to be working just fine. It’s routing through my
VAX/VMS 5.5-2 system.
Zane
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7:54 p.m.
It runs fine on my gen8 (with KVM/Libvirt)
Op ma 10 apr. 2023 om 19:20 schreef cyb 2600 <cyb2600(a)gmail.com>
I've got a Dl360 gen8 I'd love to run this on
but it only seems to support
gen9 and gen10. It requires a system with UEFI and gen8's have a BIOS. I
wonder if you could get around that with something like DUET...
On Sunday, April 9, 2023, Keith Halewood <Keith.Halewood(a)pitbulluk.org>
wrote:
I too 'snuck' a x86 VMS system on HECnet.
It's running under linux and
qemu on a box cobbled together from bits. I'll be moving it to somewhere
less ad hoc shortly and I'll probably try a SCSI-based cluster of two
though I'm not sure how qemu does shared discs.
Keith
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From: Zane Healy [mailto:healyzh@avanthar.com]
Sent: 08 April 2023 16:21
To: The Hobbyist DECnet mailing list <hecnet(a)lists.dfupdate.se>
Subject: [HECnet] OpenVMS E9.2-1/x86
There is now an OpenVMS/x86 system on HECnet, as I would expect/hope,
DECnet Phase IV seems to be working just fine. It’s routing through my
VAX/VMS 5.5-2 system.
Zane
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11 Apr
11 Apr
8:26 a.m.
I didn’t realise this until I saw a posting on r/OpenVMS and realised that OpenVMS E9.2-1
for x86 is now available to Hobbyists.
It’s available via the vms software service portal
https://sp.vmssoftware.com/
if you’ve ever requested licensing from vms software before, you have an account on their
service portal.
If you (like me) have no idea what your password is, just request it to be reset.
Login and go to the “packages” tab. Enter “X86” into the data search field and it pops
up.
X86E9210E.ZIP is the OS download. x86community-20240401.zip is the community licensing,
valid until April 2024.
There are a bunch of layered products available as well.
Cheers, Wiz!!
From: Jeroen Brons <idiotoflinux(a)gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 11 April 2023 3:54 AM
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Subject: [HECnet] Re: OpenVMS E9.2-1/x86
It runs fine on my gen8 (with KVM/Libvirt)
Op ma 10 apr. 2023 om 19:20 schreef cyb 2600
<cyb2600@gmail.com<mailto:cyb2600@gmail.com>>
I've got a Dl360 gen8 I'd love to run this on but it only seems to support gen9
and gen10. It requires a system with UEFI and gen8's have a BIOS. I wonder if you
could get around that with something like DUET...
On Sunday, April 9, 2023, Keith Halewood
<Keith.Halewood@pitbulluk.org<mailto:Keith.Halewood@pitbulluk.org>> wrote:
I too 'snuck' a x86 VMS system on HECnet. It's running under linux and qemu on
a box cobbled together from bits. I'll be moving it to somewhere less ad hoc shortly
and I'll probably try a SCSI-based cluster of two though I'm not sure how qemu
does shared discs.
Keith
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From: Zane Healy [mailto:healyzh@avanthar.com<mailto:healyzh@avanthar.com>]
Sent: 08 April 2023 16:21
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Subject: [HECnet] OpenVMS E9.2-1/x86
There is now an OpenVMS/x86 system on HECnet, as I would expect/hope, DECnet Phase IV
seems to be working just fine. It’s routing through my VAX/VMS 5.5-2 system.
Zane
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1:04 p.m.
Hmmm. I successfully reset that password myself. I was waiting for x86 community license
email from VMS software, inc.
Thanks for let me know.
Tim
From: David Moylan <djm(a)wiz.net.au>
Sent: Tuesday, April 11, 2023 2:27 AM
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Subject: [HECnet] Re: OpenVMS E9.2-1/x86
I didn’t realise this until I saw a posting on r/OpenVMS and realised that OpenVMS E9.2-1
for x86 is now available to Hobbyists.
It’s available via the vms software service portal
https://sp.vmssoftware.com/
if you’ve ever requested licensing from vms software before, you have an account on their
service portal.
If you (like me) have no idea what your password is, just request it to be reset.
Login and go to the “packages” tab. Enter “X86” into the data search field and it pops
up.
X86E9210E.ZIP is the OS download. x86community-20240401.zip is the community licensing,
valid until April 2024.
There are a bunch of layered products available as well.
Cheers, Wiz!!
From: Jeroen Brons <idiotoflinux(a)gmail.com <mailto:idiotoflinux@gmail.com> >
Sent: Tuesday, 11 April 2023 3:54 AM
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Subject: [HECnet] Re: OpenVMS E9.2-1/x86
It runs fine on my gen8 (with KVM/Libvirt)
Op ma 10 apr. 2023 om 19:20 schreef cyb 2600 <cyb2600(a)gmail.com
<mailto:cyb2600@gmail.com> >
I've got a Dl360 gen8 I'd love to run this on but it only seems to support gen9
and gen10. It requires a system with UEFI and gen8's have a BIOS. I wonder if you
could get around that with something like DUET...
On Sunday, April 9, 2023, Keith Halewood <Keith.Halewood(a)pitbulluk.org
<mailto:Keith.Halewood@pitbulluk.org> > wrote:
I too 'snuck' a x86 VMS system on HECnet. It's running under linux and qemu on
a box cobbled together from bits. I'll be moving it to somewhere less ad hoc shortly
and I'll probably try a SCSI-based cluster of two though I'm not sure how qemu
does shared discs.
Keith
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Subject: [HECnet] OpenVMS E9.2-1/x86
There is now an OpenVMS/x86 system on HECnet, as I would expect/hope, DECnet Phase IV
seems to be working just fine. It’s routing through my VAX/VMS 5.5-2 system.
Zane
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4:15 p.m.
On Apr 11, 2023, at 2:26 AM, David Moylan
<djm(a)wiz.net.au> wrote:
I didn’t realise this until I saw a posting on r/OpenVMS and realised that OpenVMS E9.2-1
for x86 is now available to Hobbyists.
It’s available via the vms software service portal
https://sp.vmssoftware.com/
if you’ve ever requested licensing from vms software before, you have an account on their
service portal.
If you (like me) have no idea what your password is, just request it to be reset.
Thanks for that link -- but how would I get started if I have no account? There isn't
a "create account" button.
paul
4:30 p.m.
Did you ever request hobbyist licensing from VSI for Alpha or Integrity?
If so, you have an account with them and can just "reset" the password.
Otherwise I would proceed to apply for hobbyist licensing and see how that goes.
I suspect that won't create an account that's enabled for service portal access
download right away, however,
https://vmssoftware.com/community/community-license/
I realise the X86 license is currently greyed out, but just apply for an Alpha license.
They will have to manually process this and once this has been done you can
go back to the service portal and try again.
Cheers, Wiz!!
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Subject: [HECnet] Re: OpenVMS E9.2-1/x86
On Apr 11, 2023, at 2:26 AM, David Moylan
<djm(a)wiz.net.au> wrote:
I didn’t realise this until I saw a posting on r/OpenVMS and realised that
OpenVMS E9.2-1 for x86 is now available to Hobbyists.
It’s available via the vms software service portal
https://sp.vmssoftware.com/
if you’ve ever requested licensing from vms software before, you have an
account on their service portal.
If you (like me) have no idea what your password
is, just request it to be
reset.
Thanks for that link -- but how would I get started if I have no account?
There isn't a "create account" button.
paul
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