On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Bob Armstrong <bob at jfcl.com> wrote: Lunchboxes! :-) And there are images for new boot ROMs available for those which will allow you to boot from the on-board SCSI host adapter, ... I've heard of this, but I haven't seen it. As I recall, the onboard SCSI adapter uses programmed I/O (no DMA!) so it's really slow. For a TK50 nobody would ever notice, but for the system disk it's a problem. Better to cluster boot one, diskless. FWIW, an RD54 isn't necessary. The 2000 can easily be convinced to use _any_ MFM drive, DEC or not. You can get VMS V4 on a 30 meg drive, maybe even 20, if you're determined. Long ago I wrote up a little description of all the VS 2000 disk formatter parameters, what they meant, and how to fake them for non-DEC drives. Google ancient Usenet postings if you're interested. Bob The real problem I've found lately is getting VMS V4 or V3. I used to do installs of V2, V3, and V4 when I was at DEC. It is really hard to find VMS installation media of the pre CD variety. We really could use an archive site for stuff like this, but HP would probably have a fit over the copyright. Unfortunately, getting a legal archive will probably not happen. Bill -- d|i|g|i|t|a|l had it THEN. Don't you wish you could still buy it now! pechter-at-gmail.com