I see. He didn't mention that to me. Sorry - I tried to answer your phone call, but it fails because CHARON doesn't have the right address for CHIMPY. Actually, yes, I'd like to have the link to GORVAX as a redundant route to the rest of the nodes. There's no problem with redundant routes using Multinet point to point links - DECnet will just pick the path with the least cost to the destination and ignore the others. If the least cost path goes down, then DECnet will pick the new least cost path, whatever that might be. There are, OTOH, issues with creating loops using the bridge program, but that has nothing to do with Multinet. BTW, who is Steve and how come he's setting himself up as the central routing hub for HECnet? In general I'm not comfortable with any architecture that has a single point of failure, no matter how many machines and how much bandwidth he may have. Bob -----Original Message----- From: Sampsa Laine [mailto:sampsa at mac.com] Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 6:53 AM To: bob at jfcl.com Cc: Steve Davidson Subject: Re: [HECnet] Site renumbering (new area 8) + bits and bobs Steve told me to take it down, something about loops. Does it need to be up? Sampsa On 3 Jun 2010, at 14:52, Bob Armstrong wrote: Sampsa - Do you know why the Multinet link from CHARON to GORVAX is down? Bob -----Original Message----- From: owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE [mailto:owner-hecnet at Update.UU.SE] On Behalf Of Sampsa Laine Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 6:42 AM To: hecnet at Update.UU.SE Subject: [HECnet] Site renumbering (new area 8) + bits and bobs Guys, We (well mostly Steve D) today did a renumbering exercise on my systems (CHIMPY, RHESUS, GORVAX and FIDOGW) into a new area, 8. Please be sure to pull a new node database off MIM to continue to be able to reach my site. Also, because of the renumbering, MIM is no longer getting annoying error messages so I am running the phone directory poller again, it's at http://rhesus.sampsa.com/hecnetdir.html Sampsa