On a semi-related note I noticed something installing 7.3 that it said not to install DECNet-Plus if you want to use DECNet-PhaseIV. Since HECNet is PhaseIV I didn't install Plus on the VAX EMulator, but I *did* IIRC on the Alpha. Will the Alpha need a re-install or reconfiguration of some kind to run on HECNet? You won't find many people who know how to configure DECNet-Plus - all the documentation for HECnet focusses on PhaseIV. Basically DECNet-Plus is overkill for most hobbyists and is substantially more difficult to configure and maintain. You can uninstall Plus and install IV no problems. Yesterday I installed 8.3 on my Alpha 1000A - this is the start of me building an Alpha based production-like system in the mold that Steve Davidson used on BUBBLE, my 4000/90. Regards, Mark