Johnny Billquist <bqt at softjar.se> writes: On 2013-04-07 01:40, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote: "Cory Smelosky" <b4 at gewt.net> writes: On 04/06/2013 06:12 PM, Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman- wrote: "Cory Smelosky" <b4 at gewt.net> writes: On 6 Apr 2013, at 16:54, "Brian Schenkenberger, VAXman-" = <system at TMESIS.COM> wrote: =20 "Cory Smelosky" <b4 at gewt.net> writes: =20 Is LAT supported on VMS 3.5 at all? If so, is it supported without = the =3D DECnet license? (I don't have a license kit for 3.x) =20 LAT is _NOT_ part of DECnet. LAT can be run without DECnet installed = or running. IIRC, LAT was licensed with VMS. Ah. So I just need to find the filename to start it then. ;) It's changed since V3x days. Look for LTLOAD.COM in SYS$MANAGER. The new names are LAT$STARTUP and LAT$SYSTARTUP but I think you'll find LTLOAD.COM is the place to begin. Hmmm. There is no LATCP.EXE, LAT$STARTUP.COM, or LTLOAD.COM it would appear. Was it an add-on kit for VMS 3.5 or did I miss something rather important? ;) Though I lived it, recalling this history is not one of my strong points. LAT showed up in VMS circa 1984/1985 time frame from my recollection. I think you will need a newer version of VMS if you want LAT. Look around for V4.7 (pre-SMP/V5.0) or later VMS. They should have LAT and DECnet IV. I'm trying to recall, but I might be wrong. But I thought I was atleast using LAT with VMS V3.7 at the time. (I don't think I ever used any VMS before that.) That should be somewhere around 1984. Recollection of V37 and V4.7 (key releases) always confuses me. However, you may be right. A timeline that HP has on its site begins with V4.0. I don't see any mention of LAT in the timeline until much later though but I am pretty sure that is was available before the date mentioned in said time- line. I do still have my Orange Wall and Gray Wall but the Blue Wall was damaged in a basement flood, so I don't have that documentation to reference. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.