G. <gerry77 at mail.com> writes: On Mon, 7 Jan 2013 14:47:03 -0500, you wrote: Brian Hechinger <wonko at 4amlunch.net> writes:=20 >=20 > >What exactly does that mean?=20 >=20 > I just too a look at the NCP sources. Sorry for this somewhat off topic message, but I've seen that from time = to time some chit-chat is allowed... I've always wondered about VMS sources: how they are actually distributed today and how much space they take? Is a CD-ROM enough for everything? = And in which format are they? Just simple text files in a bunch of directories = or there is something fancier such as some cross references and indexes? They are referred to as the OpenVMS LISTING because that's what they are; the listings from the various assembler, compiler and utilities which are used to build VMS. But the main question is: where can they be obtained? Is HP still selling= them and how much they would cost? A figure with too many zeroes, right? :/ You need to first sign and pay for a source listings license agreement. Back many years ago, IIRC, it was about $2K. There's then maintenance that must be paid yearly to get the listings CDs/DVDs when produced. Depending upon what you do with VMS, these listings are invaluable. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.