Dave McGuire <mcguire at neurotica.com> writes: On 05/19/2013 08:51 PM, h vlems wrote: When HP pulls the plug on the hobbyist scheme, or VMS, I hope you will be able to help us out! Have there been any indications of that happening? Like I just said, the negativity in this space never ceases to amaze me. Besides, PAK generators have been floating around since the dawn of time. You don't even need that. The LMF is surprisingly simple to circumvent. I was able to disable it within about 5 mins. of first booting VMS V5.0 here. -- VAXman- A Bored Certified VMS Kernel Mode Hacker VAXman(at)TMESIS(dot)ORG Well I speak to machines with the voice of humanity.